Fahrenheit 9/11

“The city of Gainesville has denied Dove World Outreach Center’s application for a burn permit to set fire to copies of the Quran on Sept. 11, but the church says it plans to burn the holy books anyway. Gene Prince, interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue, said Wednesday that under the city’s fire prevention ordinance, an open burning of books is not allowed.” [Gainesville Sun, via TPM]


welcome to religious tolerance 2010.

perhaps we need another shot of real tolerance

Dove World Outreach Center. god I really love that.
reach out and burn some books.

First they burn common sense. Then they pray to Jeebus. Then they burn books. Then they burn people.

I went to Sunday School. I went to church. I read the bible. I even took religion courses at a very good college (not a bible college). What is it about Jesus’s message that they don’t get?

@lynnlightfoot: It’s uncomfortable and may lead to thinking and to feelings other than hate.

Kudos to Gainesville for denying them permission. What weasels they are for seeking it.

Fucking assholes. They couldn’t fimd a witch?

@lynnlightfoot: Oh, they’ll deny the permit. And then ignore the burning. If no complaints come in. Fine. If a complaints come in. Fine. They’ll ignore that, too.

@Capt Howdy: Dove season starts September 1 here. That’s 9/11 minus 10 for those of you scoring at home . . .

@FlyingChainSaw: The original name of awesome metal band Lamb of God was “Burn the Priest.” The church that owns the Staples Center forbade Metallica from having Lamb of Gov open for them there in December 2008 because of that.

@FlyingChainSaw: First rule of land use law: when you can’t do something in the city (nudie bar, gravel pit, etc.), go to the county.

Dove. World. Outreach. Center. Uh-huh. Burning holy texts. Gotcha. Is this like calling me “Tiny?” One of those “funny because it so ain’t true” sorta things?

@IanJ: I don’t know, Tiny. But is that really the kind of info you want to divulge here?

@Benedick: My last name, which is a misspelling of a foreign non-Amurikan word, translates as “small.” Yet I’m probably the biggest guy here, in certain respects.

@Benedick: I trust to your discretion, Benedick.

I feel like I wandered into the men’s locker room by mistake.

Can someone direct me to the pool?

@TJ/ Jamie Sommers /TJ: Indoor or outdoor?

Watch out for the snapping towels.

@redmanlaw: The lap pool, please. I want to avoid the floats and wet noodle enthusiasts.

@TJ/ Jamie Sommers /TJ: I’ve never been seen wearing shorts. Ya know what I mean?

i wonder that too lynn…
furthering my theory that the Jeeb was used for nefarious purposes to control the unruly individuals til you have, viola! fox news.

@TJ/ Jamie Sommers /TJ:
nothing worse than a bendable noodle.

@redmanlaw: And in the arid west, if the County doesn’t like it, do it in the dry river bed.

Works most of the time, ‘cept when it rains.

@lynnlightfoot: All of it (thats the part of Jesus’ message that they don’t get).

I am tempted to say “you know who else burned books,” but I have been getting in trouble with Godwin’s law, yet, if ever a case presented an exception that proves the rule, this is one, when people burn books, Godwin’s law is inapplicable, its the vilest thing under the sun. I hold books to be so sacred, even if they are “bad” books, that I am even troubled by the fact that Germany forbids printing Mein Kampf, because the book is worth reading, you cannot really understand the nazi mindset, and thus know how to recognize it when you see it arising elsewhere, without going to the H-man’s own words.

That being said, burning books, as vile a thing as it is, is clearly symbolic speech, and clearly, protected under the first amendment in exactly the way flag burning has been held to be protected. So I am not so happy with my one-time home town’s efforts to stop this under the guise of public safety regulations. There is an acid-test to one’s commitment to freedom of speech, and that is when the speech you disagree with is really, truly, something you viscerally revile, can you still grant that the first amendment gives the assholes the right to make their asinine point?

I think the book burners have a right to burn books, it is absolutely a free speach issue, its symbolic speach, and they have a right to say what they wish, even if the result is to show themselves as the reprehensible shitbags that they are. To me, its almost like they are Charles Manson, carving a swastika in his forehead, its good he did that, so everyone who sees him, forever after, knows just what he is. Let them burn their Korans, all it does is brand them indelibly as what they are. Their intended message is completely lost, and instead, what they are doing, is sending a message about themselves, and its good, if thats what they are, if thats their agenda, book-burning, good, let them fly that flag, so all people know just what they are and what they represent.

@Promnight: I am tempted to say “you know who else burned books”

And many of those who practiced magic brought their books together and began burning them in the sight of everyone; and they counted up the price of them and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver.

 So the word of the Lord was growing mightily and prevailing.

Acts 19: 19-20.

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