Uncle Pat Joins the Oathers

Tradition, Tradition.

You only rent beer, the saying goes, and apparently the same can be said for America. At least that’s the impression we get from Pat Buchanan’s new column, “Traditional Americans are losing their nation.”

Hailing from the far shores of Traditia, Traditional Americans fill the ranks of the Oath Keepers, those stalwart guardians of our Second Amendment rights. (The Fourteenth is optional.) But don’t blame our Kansas-American President — “the alienation and radicalization of white America began long before Obama arrived.”

And Pat, champion of the Southern Strategy, knows a Traddy when he sees one:

We had seen these folks before. They were Perotistas in 1992, opposed NAFTA in 1993 and blocked the Bush-Kennedy McCain amnesty in 2007.

In their lifetimes, they have seen their Christian faith purged from schools their taxes paid for, and mocked in movies and on TV. They have seen their factories shuttered in the thousands and their jobs outsourced in the millions to Mexico and China. They have seen trillions of tax dollars go for Great Society programs, but have seen no Great Society, only rising crime, illegitimacy, drug use and dropout rates.

They watch on cable TV as illegal aliens walk into their country, are rewarded with free educations and health care and take jobs at lower pay than American families can live on — then carry Mexican flags in American cities and demand U.S. citizenship.

“America was once their country,” says Pat. “They sense they are losing it. And they are right.”

Now before you get all uptight, consider that Pat’s doing us a favor — no need to demonstrate how the Oathers and their brethren are racist. Not when he does the work for us.

Traditional Americans are losing their nation [WND]

Image: Homeland Security t-shirt [Coyotes Corner, via RML]


oh fer fucks sake:

“They have seen trillions of tax dollars go for Great Society programs, but have seen no Great Society”

you know, you dont have to cash those Social Secrutiy checks.

Didn’t we have a “no Irish” immigration policy? See how they fucking shit up?

That’s my man Geronimo on the right, BTW.

I thought the traditional Americans already lost their nation(s).

Oh you mean, white people.

I hate to break it to the slower crazier denser of the white brotherhood, but you know how you don’t lose your nation? 7 not so easy steps:
1) Read a fucking book outside of the bible or Wingnuttery land
2) Stay in school and get edumakated (community college or higher)
3) Don’t freak about change
4) Don’t be scared of living like getting laid (responsibly) isn’t going to kill you
5) Put the gun down
6) Get this shit “I deserve/I am OWED because I am a WHITE person” attitude out of your ass.
7) Most importantly (and probably the hardest step of all), THINK

Tinted folks are “winning” cause they’re not deluded with some sort of entitlement complex (same thing you been bitching about black folks and others), work really hard and/or respects the larning. Failure to heed means you will be the ones left behind.

this is exactly right. they are pissed because for years and years they have been preaching to non whites about how all you have to do is stay in school and work hard and “all this” can be yours when they never really believed it.
well, it turns out they were right. and they are learning that if they dont stay in school and work hard it will no longer be theirs as a birthright.

karma is a bitch.

@Capt Howdy:
I sat through a few presentations last weekend about technological education at a conference. Everything they said is what my dad said 30 years ago to my school aged self.

Too many people (including some of my engineering school classmates) think edumakashun ends at grad. I’ve managed to keep up with certain things, but I’ve branched out beyond my major of electrical engineering.

There is already the makings of a serious divide between the tech savvy/intelligent and everyone else. A new age of technological feudalism, if you will. It’s not going to be an obvious divide between white/tinted, tall/short, etc. It’s going to be about whose brain can process and analyze it faster.

@ManchuCandidate: First time I heard the stat that folks go through five careers in their lives, I think I was already up to seven.

indeed. I have reinvented myself so many times I have lost count. if I had not I would be working at a Starbucks (if lucky. a WalMart if not).

I have a lifestyle to which I have become accustomed and you are going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands. so I do what ever it takes.

@Capt Howdy: Penn Jillette, before he became an asshole: “Freedom is low overhead.”

Which is why I’ve lived like a grad student since 1983.

@SanFranLefty: I thought I felt safer for some reason, now I know why.

recently we did a “career day” thing at a local high school. the kids were impressed with my past resume and I was asked how I managed to do all those different things. I told them the truth which is that I never planned to do any of them.
we have a plaque on the wall in my office that I share with three other effects guys that says “if you love your job you will never work a day in your life”.
its not my plaque but it is my moto and how I have lived my life.
I told them.: know what you love amd what you want but be flexible in how you get there.
keep you eyes on the prize but dont say “I will do this and nothing else” unless you have wealthy parents who will support you.
and most of all. have fun.

@Capt Howdy: I told them the truth which is that I never planned to do any of them.

Precisely. Once you run away to join the circus, the adventure begins.

I first heard the “multiple career” line when I was toiling at an alumni magazine. The other part of the pitch is to pursue a broad-based liberal arts education, since you don’t know what the fuck you’ll be doing ten years from now, and you need to be ready for anything.

TJ: Panel truck just passed by coffeehouse — “All County Fire.”

It’s an extinguisher outfit, but really, it’s not the best name for Sandy Eggo


Why does the jailhouse cooking scene from Goodfellas flash through my mind when I hear that?

@Capt Howdy: fucking hate mine. 8 hours of soul-destroying torture per day. I always want to just start screaming but I can’t.

oh man
that Buchanan thing pissed me off. stupidly I read the whole thing now I want to punch someone. Pat preferably.
take this gem:

Progressives are the folks who, in the 1960s, could easily understand that urban riots that took scores of lives and destroyed billions in property were an inevitable reaction to racism, poverty and despair. They could empathize with the rage of campus radicals who burned down the ROTC building and bombed the Pentagon.

The “dirty, immoral war in Vietnam” explains why the “finest generation we have ever produced” is behaving like this, they said. We must deal with the “root causes” of social disorder.

I might add that the racism poverty and despair AND the dirty war were products of the administration YOU propped up and apologized for you fucking douchbag.

Yet, they cannot comprehend what would motivate Middle America to distrust its government

wrong again douchbag. I know exactly why they “distrust” the government. its because they are finally outnumbered and exsqueze me if I call bullshit on a comparison of protesting racism poverty despair and a dirty war to protesting the expansion of health care coverage and civil rights.
you know what Pat, FUCK you and the tea baggers you rode in on. you dont like it here dont let the door hit yer fat ass on the way out. I hear Kazakhstan is beautiful this time of year and much closer to your values.

@Capt Howdy:
And don’t forget the knee “injury” that kept the marathon running Pat out of ‘Nam.

Another lying chickenhawk? You don’t say.
Not as colorful as Machinegun Ted Nugent’s strategy for chickenhawking, though.

@Capt Howdy: “If you want peace, work for justice,” says the new bumper sticker on my truck, the one right above the one for Obama and the 2009 NRA membership decal.

“Progressives are the folks who, in the 1960s, could easily understand that urban riots that took scores of lives and destroyed billions in property were an inevitable reaction to racism, poverty and despair.”

Goddamn right.

all of my favorite people defy pigeon holes

@nojo: For nearly two decades I could look back proudly and say “jeez, you really can get here from there”. After a brief pause of 3.5 years, I seem to have gotten back on that path but with a little more deliberation and with my tail slightly between my legs. You see, not only am I really truly working for the Man, but I knew that I would be when I took this gig.

Today was my first real reflection on the implications, when all around me were cackling about The Great Maoist in Chief and I had to realize that I couldn’t get into a pissing match with them because of the remote but still real possibility that one of them could get me fragged.

Isn’t this sort of what Hopey said re the Bitterz and their guns? Except with a steaming dollop of Buchanshit?

@Capt Howdy: Prom is a mad master cook masquerading as a reasonable lawyer-type. He has sauce béarnaise running through his veins.

T/J: I was outside all day today in the glorious fall of ’09 weeding and planting and clearing out summer’s detritus. the morning was overcast. The sun came out around 2 and the house was suddenly covered in ladybugs. Thousands and thousands of them. That happened the year we bought the house, ten years ago. They got inside and I had to hoover up great piles of them. I was told then by someone even more insufferably smug than I that they aren’t really ladybugs but asian painted beetles. I don’t know. I took pics but they don’t show the thousandness of them. I knew you’d all want to know about it. Thank you and now I go cook pasta.

@The Nabisco Quiver are Go!: You should go all Bush Doctrine on they ass.

@Benedick: First real fall shower this afternoon, first fire in the fireplace. Mother in law’s elk chili for dinner, broadband and sat tv are up and running, my little family and big wet dog are all warm and cozy. Martini later? Possibly, or a nice malbec.

@redmanlaw: Off to hear a skeevy band play for free. I just remembered that FlyingChainSaw had told me he’d be out this way this week, and was going to check out one of the shows. If I run into FCS will let y’all know.

@SanFranLefty: I thought that the first rule about FCS IRL was . . .

/off to make Mrs RML a Wild Turkey toddy to sip by the fire for her throat tickle

@Benedick: I know, vegetarian, I know, factory pork is amongst the evilist of meats, but, paying my debts from trying to change careers, which cost me a year’s salary and put off any future efforts for a couple of years, I am having to economize, and whole bonless pork loins were 99 cents a pound, and I like it better than chicken. So I cut two thick, inch and a half thick, chops from the center, and then, pounded them till they were a half inch thick, then dusted them with pepper, adobe, and one of my secrets, I take dried shiitake mushrooms, cheap cheap cheap in the asian markets, and put them in a coffee grinder, and grind to a powder, and use to dust meats I am going to saute.

Then I sliced a whole onion paper thin, and then heated a bit of oil and butter in a saute pan, put the onions in that, sprinkled a bit of light brown sugar on the onions, and then laid the pounded chops on top of the onions, and turned up the heat a bit. I wanted to caramelize the onions completely, and braise the pork in nothing but the liquids that came out of the onions and pork. There were bay leaves in there, too.

The onions turned dark dark brown, and their caramelized liquids stained and coated the pork, I turned the pork, a lot of liquid came out of the pork and onions at first, I poured that off, and saved it to use as a sauce for the lentil pilaf. I braised the pork in the little bit of deep brown caramalized onion juices for an hour. Then towards the end, I threw in a quarter cup of dark rum, and a dash of cayenne, not enough to make it hot, just prickly.

As I said, I saved the first run of juices, and added it to a mix of lentils and black-eyed peas and diced fresh poblano peppers and scallions, and just heated all that in a saucepan until the lentils and beans had absorbed all the liquids.

This could be done with a vegetarian dish, no doubt, tofu, maybe, instead of pork?

Oh well.


I’m still really new at this veggie thing, but maybe you could do that with seitan? I’m finding it a good replacement for meat recipes.

@SanFranLefty: THAT’S IT!

FCS is Donald Fagen. It makes perfect sense…

ADD: DF played horn in h.s. marching band, among other backstory connects.

ADD2: ::door opens:: Hello? YOU? nooooooo……/slumps to the floor/

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: Believe it or not, I think I could do this with thick “steaks” cut from squash. The seitan looks good, too, I must learn more about that.

@The Nabisco Quiver are Go!: Hey, dude, Prom Jr. has decided to take up the cello! I love it, its the only instrument that sounds good no matter how badly its played. We got to get the familias together.

@Promnight: I want to teach the world to cook, in perfect harmony, oh, please, give me a chance, what I could show you, make you the star of your social set, I could.

Here is another idea, a stinque cooking school weekend, seriously, stinquers, you could all go together for a vacation beach house hereabouts for a long weekend in the off-season for very reasonable per person rates, beaches, food, stinquers partying together, what ho, eh?

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches:

My cooking usually ends with an ambulance call, but I’ve found that Quorn makes–without question–the most delicious veggie “meats” en le monde.

@Original Andrew: I fucked up some ribeyes on the grill last weekend by drying them out. Contributing factors included drink, cigars and the presence of an old friend, but ultimately it was operator error. The seasoning and marinading saved them, however.

@Promnight: I’m afraid that factory pork is evil. But also delicious. I’ll say this only once (today) then shut up about it. We all must find our own way to get through life. I find the suffering we inflict to get cheap meat unbearable. That we should lavish love and affection on two or three species while treating others with mindless ferocity makes no sense to me. However, I still eat fish for the sake of domestic harmony so color me hypocrite (I once read an account of an ichthyologist working on the Florida coast describing grouper as being as ‘playful as puppies’; a remark that has haunted me to this day. And you’re welcome).

I used to love to cook pork and your treatment sounds delicious. In my experience you can’t do that with vege alternatives because they don’t act like meat. They don’t throw off juices and dont respond to heat the way meat does. When I cook only for myself these days I don’t think of dinner as having the same structure as one centered on meat. More like two or three dishes complementing each other. What one misses in vegetarian cooking are the very fats and juices that one used to relish most. The temptation is to cram the food with butter and/or cheese. I used to love butter and would make special trips to Balducci’s of blessed memory to buy the best Franch they had. I can’t eat it now. It just tastes of beef fat. I also can’t eat ice-cream any more. It tastes like lard. You would be amazed how quickly one loses the taste though I’m still nostalgic after all these years for a roast loin of pork rolled in herbs with the crackling salted and roasted on the side served with potatoes roasted in the pan with the pork. And at this time of year I still miss braised turkey legs cooked with butternut squash.

I’m actually considering breaking out the pots and pans and cooking for some friends: various little savory pastries as an appetizer served with champagne; poached soufflées with spinach; a char boned through the back and stuffed then sewn up and baked served with a potato galette; a salad; then a chocolate tart with a crust made from almonds.

@Original Andrew: I haven’t tried that brand. Thanks for the link. My local hippy store sells it. I am so all over it.

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: Seitan is very good as is tempeh – best cut thin and fried crisp then added at the last minute to boost a vegetable dish. But as before stated, I’ve come to think of dinner in different terms. I went completely vegan for about 7 years. My cholesterol readings were things of beauty. I wouldn’t even buy leather shoes or watch bands. But it’s very difficult to sustain and very annoying to inflict on one’s hubby. When I’m cooking for myself what I most like to do is make noodle soups with a lot of vegetables, miso broth, and two or three pieces of fish or shellfish. I could happily live on such food.

the solution is to grow your own. I live next door to my sister in AR who has a farm where they have all kinds of animals including pigs who are treated very well and killed humanely. they give me lots of beef and pork and I relish it.

I happen to think plants have a kind of consciousness that we ignore out of arrogance. you have to eat something.

@Capt Howdy: I think that makes perfect sense. You’re lucky to be able to achieve it. I also think hunting makes sense though it’s not something I would want to do.

I grew up in a family of hunters and withstood unbelievable pressure to go with them from the time I was old enough to carry a gun. I dont have a problem with it but I cant do it.
anyway trapsing around in the woods swatting bugs and picking ticks is not my idea of a good time.

@Capt Howdy: @Benedick: I can’t do factory meat, but am also lucky to live in a rural area where I can buy chickens from a farm I’ve visited, so I know how they’re treated, and beef, pork, and lamb from other local farmers committed to humane practices. Same for dairy–local meat, butter, and goat cheese. Given where you’re located, Benedick, you could probably find similar arrangements by asking at the hippie store or farmer’s market, should your cravings become severe. I also think hunting of the RML variety is the most humane way to get your meat, as well as the most honest. When I’m feeling overly analytical, I reproach myself for eating meat but being unable (or unwilling) to actually kill and clean the animal. In fact, when cooking for myself, I tend to eat a vegetarian diet just because I hate touching raw meat. *insert ribald joke here*

In fact, when cooking for myself, I tend to eat a vegetarian diet just because I hate touching raw meat. *insert ribald joke here*

ditto. we are such cowards. but a funny story. when I lived in LA I had a great backyard and had many cookouts. one saturday me and some friends were out cooking and one of my pet rabbits get out of the cage and is almost instantly sent to meet its maker by my big stupid dog. I suggested putting it on the grill and about 50% of the guests were absolutely horrified.
poor things will never see me the same say again.

@Capt Howdy: It is much harder to eat cute animals, and anything that has a name. In the above situation, I would have been so traumatized that any food whatsoever would have been out of the question for, like, a week.

we raised rabbits when I was a kid. to eat I mean and it was my job to take care of them. so it seemed like the sensible thing to do to me. I mean it was already dead.

it was in no way a painful or horrible death. no blood. I think it just had a heart attack when the dog grabbed it.

I think there is nothing more cute, beautiful, graceful pick you adjective than a deer. and I love venison properly prepared.

@Capt Howdy: For me the aversion wouldn’t come from cuteness. After all, little piggies are pretty damn cute. It’s about eating a pet–an animal you know. Is it anthropomorphic and sentimental to be horrified at the idea of eating a pet even while you would happily munch away on an anonymous member of the same species? Perhaps. But I also think there’s an element in that taboo of whatever it is that makes us human. We don’t prey on our own or on our companion animals, except in desperation.

@Capt Howdy, cyn: A friend of mine and I have talked about doing a photo safari for pronghorn antelope out here. Same skill set as hunting but no license required.

My friend with prostrate cancer whose appendix blew up the weekend we were mocked by turkeys, er, went turkey hunting wants to go deer hunting next week. His mobility is limited somewhat, but I won’t mind setting up somewhere with him on his ranch somewhere to see if a buck walks by. I usually roam the woods moving from cover to cover looking for game, but I can do that when I go for elk with my brother early next month. Hunting is also about companionship and being out in addition to looking to fill the freezer. My dad taught us not to trophy hunt, which in my book is killing an animal just to stick its head on the wall.

Deer are beautiful animals. It’s really a profound experience to look one in the eye and have no clue about what it is thinking because it a wild creature. Totally unlike looking at a dog, cat or other domesticated animal.

We do a deer dance around Christmas time to give thanks for the game, so there is a religious or ceremonial aspect to it as well. I don’t think I’ve dressed as a deer in a fresh hide since I was a kid. We have buffalo heads at home, so we wear those for the dance. (tangent) My gramps used to ride the train to hunt buffalo in Kansas, my dad says. That was a long time ago before our tribe got its own buffalo herd.

(sigh) . . . back to work . . .

@flippin eck:
I would certainly never eat a dog or a cat (I can hear the sighs of relief). but I never really considered the rabbits “pets” in those terms. they did not have names, if that matters.
they just lived in their little pen and did their thing. I ended up with them from a friend who moved away.
and like I said I grew up eating rabbits so it was not a stretch. in a way rabbits seem like the ultimate food animal to me.

it sound like the hunting tradition you grew up with was quite different from the macho trophy bullshit my great white hunter forefathers were fond of.

@Capt Howdy: Mrs RML has only recently quit rooting for the deer.

@Capt Howdy: Full confession (everyone else plug your ears, because I know you’re fully aware of my impending topic!): I had two nearly-anonymous hutch-dwelling rabbits when I was young, but now I have two house rabbits. Totally different experience. My rabbits are not cooped up in a tiny cage and eat food that’s actually healthy for them. They’re both fixed and “chose” each other as companions from the shelter that rescued them. Also, they have amazing, distinct personalities that are every bit as dynamic as a cat’s or dog’s.

I’m very much aware that rabbits are an important food source for many people, and it’s not like I’m angry that people eat them. But I am heartbroken to now have a better understanding of what an ignorant disservice many, many of us do to them as “pets,” even in the case of my own past. I don’t mean this in judgement of you at all, I just wanted to point out that rabbits are entitled to be regarded as pets just as much as cats and dogs.

@flippin eck:

Don’t they dig in your carpet? I always wanted one, but I heard they dig up your carpet.

@flippin eck: They took that left turn at Albuquerque, didn’t they?

We went rabbit hunting out in the sagebrush one day last fall. Basically fluffed up the dirt around the ones we saw (an outdoorsy way of saying we missed every shot). But, again, a beautiful day out with my best friend and a couple of kids. Wouldn’t mind tromping around the high desert for that again in the near future.

@flippin eck:
what you say could be said, and is by many, of pigs.

just sayin

@Capt Howdy:

Pigs are actually charming animals…very smart, very friendly. My sisters used to raise them for 4H. My father would walk them to keep the meat a good consistency, and then, every year when the time came, he always wept for them.

Fresh bacon is amazing, tho.

@Capt Howdy: I would certainly never eat a dog or a cat

That’s your cue, Manchu.

I do realize it is a cultural bias. doesnt change my diet.

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches:
I sometimes took care of the animals including the pigs at my sisters house when I used to work contract and had the time to ever be there.
they were sort of cute but honestly I just always saw walking pork chops.

does that make me a bad person?

@Capt Howdy: I’ll step in for Manchu here, since I brought him up — if I recall correctly, his dad likes to threaten the dog with their cultural dining preferences.

truth be told I have threatened mine with the same fate. they know its BS.

Well a lot’s been going on since I went out to move a couple of cimicifuga and clear up the last of the crap.

@flippin eck: I was initially spurred to give up meat because of the death of a much-loved dachshund. I was walking home from the Animal Clinic on East 62nd and it struck me as being ridiculous that I should be so upset about him and yet be contemplating chicken for dinner. And I stopped.

@Mistress Cynica: I daresay I could find properly raised animals here but once you switch it’s hard to go back. I could no more think of eating meat now than of attending Shrek: the Musical.

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: There is a wondrous book about a boy and his pig entitled A Day No Pigs Would Die. The boy in question is given a piglet which he raises. It’s the Depression – you see where I’m going with this – and he has to help his father kill and butcher it. The book is full of very violent scenes with animals. It’s haunting and very well done. Disney had the rights at one time though God knows how it could ever be filmed.

@Capt Howdy: Walking pork chops? No. That’s not what makes you a bad person.

funny thread.
must add a site I have visited recently


it is NOT a porn site featuring Danish circus dwarfs in leather.

@flippin eck:

one thing about the rabbits

rabbits are not cooped up in a tiny cage and eat food that’s actually healthy for them.

these rabbits were not in a tiny cage. this was LA. they lived outside and came with a cage the size of a small house.
and they ate better than I did.

I read A Day No Pigs Would Die as a kid. The kid’s father dies, its in the father’ss memory that the slaughterhouse where the father worked closed down so his coworkers could go to the funeral, thats why it was the day no pigs would die.

I have no problem with eating animals. I especially have no problem with meat hunters, who eat what they kill. Everything dies, all animals die, most prey die from being killed by a predator, its the natural way life is on earth. The fact that animals are killed to provide food for other animals is not immoral. But the LIVES of the animals raised in factory settings, chickens, pigs, and cows towards the ends of their lives, this imprisonment and overcrowding and filth, this is immoral.

The english language’s treatment of food animals has always fascinated me. We have a different name for the living animal, and the dead meat, in almost every case. Pig or swine, versus pork; cattle, cow, versus beef or veal; sheep versus mutton (lamb is a strangely disturbing exception). And in almost every case, the name for the animal is the old english, germanic name, and the name for the meat is the french, norman word. They say its because, historically, after the Norman invasion, lower class anglo saxons raised the animals, upper class norman french ate the meat, but I think its more than that, I think the euphemisims provide comfort for those who don’t like to think of the living animal when eating its meat.

This same pattern is repeated in the law, in many instances, this vestige of the norman invasion and the presence in england of two languages, french and anglo saxon, in law there are several examples of phrases which give two words for the same thing, they always go together; aid and abet, advise and consent, a triple example is give, devise, and bequeth, I am blanking, but there are a lot of these, and in most cases, one word is norman french, and one is anglo-saxon-english.

I do recognize as completely valid one moral justification for vegetarianism, that based on waste and inefficiency. The grain used to raise a meat animal in every case would feed more people than the meat from the animal, meat eating is a waste of scarce resources.

I do think the traditional treatment of meat in chinese cooking is a good compromise, but even our western “chinese food” is far from this, the traditional view of meat in the chinese cuisine is almost as a condiment for the rice, or noodles. Each individual’s meal consists overwhelmingly of the basic staple, rice or noodles, with just enough meat to flavor it.

Italian food, its also poverty food from a poor country, is the same, exactly the same, a sauce with a little meat, flavoring the pasta.

Noone on earth should expect to sit down to a one-pound beefsteak at dinner every night, or half a chicken, several pork chops, but that is the default in US amerrica. If the general rule were simply closer to the chinese and italian way, overall consumption would be half or less, much less misery would result, much less waste. Much less obesity and heart disease.

Don’t get me started on sugar, its a drug, not a food.

Now this has me thinking, the problem is not meat eating per se, its gluttonous gorging on meat, and modern US eating habits don’t involve eating meat, they involve gluttonous, excessive gorging on meat, at every meal. Historically, our per capita meat consumption is probably greater than that of the Roman emporers and senators, or the medeival aristocrats, far far greater than the average human’s consumption of meat in any society since the explosion of hunter-gatherers in the pleistocene which decimated the large animal population of the world.

@Promnight: Have you read The Omnivore’s Dilemma?

@Promnight: Made me toootally rethink Grade 2 corn and HFCS. I loved that grass farmer. Loved him!

@JNOV: I could totally live on corn and beans and a little meat every now and then. Or rice and soy and some fish now and then. Sensible cuisines are everywhere around the globe.

@Promnight: Right, but that Grade 2 stuff isn’t fit for human consumption unless it passes through an animal or a lab. It’s a major waste of resources and terribly bad for the animals that eat it. And when it comes to sugar, gimme cane or even beet sugar any day of the week, just not that HFCS crap. I love how he describes how much Grade 2 corn went into his family’s meal at McDonald’s — how it would overflow his trunk and spill out into the road behind them.

@JNOV: New fucking Coke, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the public.

They announce new coke, people fucking hate it, but for a month, regular old traditional coke is gone. Then, after people forget what the old coke tastes like, they trot out “coke classic,” only its not, they switched from cane sugar to HFCS. So now its not Classic Coke anymore, its just Coke, but its not the same as pre-New Coke Coke.

It was all just to disguise the switch from sugar to HFCS in the Coke recipe.

Hey, Coke is not good for you, its not food, its a drug. But when I want that particular drug, I want the real fucking thing.

There are two ways to get it, real, REAL, Coca Cola. Go to a mexican food store, and buy mexican Coke, made in Mexico, they still use the original recipe. The difference is night and day. Or, around passover, look for Kosher Coke, with the blue bottle top. HFCS is not kosher, Kosher Coke is made with cane sugar, like the original Coke, and Mexican Coke.


@Promnight: Have You had Boylan’s root beer? Yummy. And yes indeed on the Mexican coke. Plus the bottles are a more reasonable serving size.

@Promnight: New Coke. That’s very clever. I had no idea. I never drink it but could taste the difference in Jamaica.

Also the language for meat. Did you know that in Scotland they butcher a cow quite close to how it’s done in France? Which is not how it’s done in England. Because of the historical connection between the two countries – France and Scotland, I mean. I daresay that’s not true any longer but it used to be.

And that’s it for me: the lives of the animals. And let’s not even think of the horror of lab animals. Lost dogs being sent from the pound to.. I can’t complete that. I have to go feed my pack. They are staring at me.

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