Also: Those Allegations You Keep Hearing About Are Totes Made Up

We got another Catholic Bishop mixing it up. Most Rev. Joseph Martino of Scranton…. go!

At the direction of the Most Reverend Bishop, this letter is to be read by the celebrant at all Masses of Obligation on Respect Life Weekend, Saturday, October 4, and Sunday, October 5, at the time of and instead of the homily. Moreover, a copy of the letter should be circulated with all parish bulletins on this same weekend.

[Except at Masses where IRS agents are in attendance. Wink. Fast-forward to operative bit. (Ed.)]

Another argument goes like this: “As wrong as abortion is, I don’t think it is the only relevant ‘life’ issue that should be considered when deciding for whom to vote.” This reasoning is sound only if other issues carry the same moral weight as abortion does, such as in the case of euthanasia and destruction of embryos for research purposes. Health care, education, economic security, immigration, and taxes are very important concerns. Neglect of any one of them has dire consequences as the recent financial crisis demonstrates. However, the solutions to problems in these areas do not usually involve a rejection of the sanctity of human life in the way that abortion does. Being “right” on taxes, education, health care, immigration, and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life.

OK. As soon as the Catholic Church hierarchy actually owns up to all of the coverups they’ve engaged in over the past 30 or 40 years, I’ll get back to them on this thing. Until then, I could be bothered.

[Note: this is a standard thing now. I recall that the Bishop of Madison required all priests, the Sunday before Election 2006, to play a CD of a rant against gay marriage, with sanctions for non-compliant priests.]


Wasn’t the Catholic Church all gung ho on killing Commies during the Cold War? Or going back a bit, the Crusades? Why yes yes it was.

Oh Lord. Spare me the every sperm is scared crap. Human life isn’t just about conception and death but also about from all that stuff in between which is more important.

While we’re at it, can we talk about that “go forth and multiply” thing as well?

Hello? Hello? Where the hell did you go?

It must be tough to have all that moral authority and still have to pay out on child molestation claims.

The deth penalty is OK with them. It says so in the back of the hymn book and the thingy with the year’s readings in it. Maybe if they tried the phoetuses . . .

I just got a photo of me reading the scripture at my Dad’s wedding in a Catholic church. Not sure if I will be able to post it on the Stinque stream this weekend, but I will try.

These clowns will be all h0ly and shit until they need stem cell treatments to save their sorry lives … then it’s time to check into the hospital under an assumed name.

Editor’s note: Not all Catholics are total bastards. Most Catholics are perfectly lovely people. Like anything else, the total bastards can be found in the upper reaches of church hierarchy.

(By comparison, many Republicans are normal, hard working people who hug their kids nightly and work their asses off at all other times. Rock solid people, really. The clowns running the show, however, are useless at best, and dangerous at worst.)

@Tommmcatt Yet Again: Comment of the Day, FTW!

@blogenfreude: Or when their 17 year old daughter gets pregnant and wants to still go off to Notre Dame for college and not be stuck in a trailer park with a baby.

“By their fruits ye shall know them.”

I’m Catholic. I was raised a Catholic, and went to Catholic school. When I lived in NYC, I found a pre-Vatican-II church that said masses in Latin, and I loved going there.

One Sunday, the Gospel was about how one should show their faith quietly, that one shouldn’t boast about their faith. I liked it. And then the Priest saying mass gave his homily.

For a modern analogy, he said, “So, when you’re going to go protest outside abortion clinics, just pray silently at their door. There’s no need to yell and intimidate the customers.”

I was wearing clogs that day. And I got up and CLACK CLACK CLACKED all the way up that marble aisle, and I SLAMMED the door closed behind me.

That was the last time I was in a church for a mass (as opposed to weddings, christenings or funerals). It was, oh, about 11 or 12 years ago.

I went to church to talk to God, and to pray and meditate. It truly was my sanctuary, because that is where everything else in the world just faded away – including the politics of the Church. I could disagree with the Church, but I could go into a church to think and to just be myself, and to talk to God.

That priest’s homily was a breach of trust for me, and a breaking of an agreement. I have never been able to look at the church the same way again, not even at my great uncle’s funeral (he was a bishop and it was a WHOLE LOTTA pomp and circumstance).

I’ve never forgiven then Church to allow me to be offended like that. Does that make sense?

Whatever. FSM all the way, motherfuckers.

Ain’t no party like a Scranton party…

@ManchuCandidate: every sperm is scared. Actually, I think that’s true.

@redmanlaw: They don’t have to try them. Aren’t they already “guilty” because of original sin? Aren’t they barred from Heaven and stuck in Limbo if they die unbaptized? No innocent life involved! Move along, nothing to see.
(Apologies if this is wrong — my knowledge of Catholic doctrine comes from Dante).

@RomeGirl: I admire your courage in CLACK, clack, clacking out, and SLAMming the door. You excommunicated the church. Good enough for it.

Thanks for telling that story.

I was raised Catholic, lapsed as a young man, married as Catholic and for a while tried to maintain a Catholic faith. But the questions were always there. The contrived excuses for no women in the clergy, the numerous vengeful and unChristian homilies by priests on abortion, child rearing, marriage, social justice. There were numerous times my spouse would physically restrained me from leaving Mass. Finally I realized there is another faith path to travel and continue to explore ethical disciplines. My spouse still goes to church and my daughter. They talk about the priests telling people how to vote & parishioners getting up a leaving Mass, the politics, the money quest, the revisionist theology, the moral inconsistencies, the disinterest in social justice. The Church of John XXIII is long dead, its big business like the fundies.

@Comandante Agi: Have we snookered another new member? Welcome!

Anybody watching Olbermann and his Campaign Comment? VP candidate doesn’t know what the VP does? God help America!

@nojo: Quick, get the Hazing Paddles!

@AARPrick: Happens to the best of ’em! Just wait 50 years or so, when the Church of FSM is tasing heretics and burning any book that fails to mention His Noodly Appendages.

Ahem, IanJ. “Freedom Paddles.”

lynnlightfoot: Nice to see Keef bringing teh funny with his commentary. I love that man.

@lynnlightfoot: I liked “So Rachel, will you take ‘Vice-Presidenting’ for $100?”

@Comandante Agi: Welcome aboard! You know that the new guy buys the drinks, right?

@drinkyclown: “His Noodly Appendage” heh, heh, heh…mmm.

@AARPrick: Isn’t that what got the Catholics in trouble?

@Mistress Cynica: From what I have read its more of the noodly appendage being forced on young women than noodling with young men….tho the hierarchy, ie JPII and Benny-dick tried to paint it as strictly a “homosexual problem”. If there were women clergy that shit would have stopped a long time ago. Thank the stars Amurricah is still a pluralistic country.

A bunch of twisted pedophilic misogynist celibates, sorta. Sorta celibates, I mean. As long as underage blowjobs don’t count. This is about sexism, Catholic doctrine hold that men are superior to women, and they want that control. Why else can’t women be priests, why, and this is extreme sexism, must priests be celibate? So they don’t pollute themselves by consorting with women. It suddenly hit me a few years ago, catholic morality about sex, the prudism and guilt and sin, its not because they think sex is evil, its because they know that sex requires fraternizing with women, its the women they think are evil. The heart of it is the belief that women are temptresses, like Eve, who lead men to downfall with their wiles.

Yes, this, I believe, sincerely, and literally, is the moral code you get when you look to a mens club of twisted celibates for your moral code.

Why, if women could control their reproduction, they’d be free sexual beings, like men, and women being the equal of men on any level is their real fear, so they want to take that freedom from women. Sex is only tolerable to the twisted celibates when a dutiful wife is giving it up, not enjoying it, God forbid, as a service to their husband. Its control, pure and simple.

Thank God this is not the view of the people in the pews, its only the view of the twisted celibate woman-hating club that is the Catholic church hierarchy. And a small percentage of lay zealots. Most Catholics laughingly ignore it, in the US, at least.

Hi, nojo. You can blame blogenfreude for introducing me to this place.

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