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“ABC News has learned that Bachmann, R-Minn., also is seriously weighing whether to seek the Republican nomination for president in 2012.”


Who can be crazy with just a smile?
Who can take a nothing day, and suddenly make it all seem insane?
Well it’s you girl, and you should know it
With each rant and every batshit moment you show it

Power is all around, you want to taste it
You can be Preznit, why don’t you take it
You’re gonna make it after all
You’re gonna make it after all

How will you make it on your own?
This world is awfully sane, girl this time you’re all alone
But it’s time you started running
It’s time you tried to show who’s the craziest

Power is all around, you want to taste it
You can be Preznit, why don’t you take it
You’re gonna make it after all
You’re gonna make it after all

@Capt Howdy: Yeah, that’s how we ended up with Shrub as Governor and then President.

Put your mind at ease.

2012 election results:

Obama – 46.2 %
Pence – 43.7%
Bloomberg – 8.4%

@libertarian tool: Who the hell is Pence? Apparently no one crazy enough to be on my radar screen.

@Mistress Cynica:
your radar screen must have some pretty high standards for crazie.

I want a raygun! Or a phaser set to stun. Or a cattleprod. Or anything to make these kids understand that I’m tired of their shit and about to go apecrazy up in here.

@Mistress Cynica:
Mike Pence. I figure – like Obama – this far out it has to be someone just below the radar now – except to the activist base. Plus he’s got that square jawed neo-nazi ,Robert Shaw/Rutger Hauer look that should appeal to Republicans as the anti-Obama.

@libertarian tool: I’m thinking that Cheesehead Ryan is a threat.

@Mistress Cynica: The world would be a better place if fewer people knew who Mike Pence is.

@JNOV: I was just stoned.

Thanks for noticing I was gone, though.


I hope Tommmcatt brought enough for the rest of the class. ;)

@libertarian tool: Good call. The only legit candidate right now is Huckabee — no, really! — and I suspect his appeal is limited to his base. He could win a few primaries and end up as veep.

What remains is someone off the national radar right now. Although I swear to god, if that asshole Mike Lee starts being touted, I’m going ballistic.


we should worry about Gary Johnson. the governor of NM. he could have serious cross over appeal to the libertarians.

@Tommmcatt is with Karin Marie on This One: Jr is please that Auntie Catt is alive. Seriously, we were worried about you stuck in the Target parking garage.

@JNOV: It was the parking garage at the Soho club, but it amounts to the same thing.

@al2o3cr: I think he smoked enough for the class. Sheesh.

@Tommmcatt is with Karin Marie on This One: Haha! The Soho House? That ain’t no Target. Bet those stairs fucked you up.

@Capt Howdy: I’m not going to start worrying until the field begins to sort itself out. Right now, none of the Usual Suspects have a chance in hell, and we have yet to see how the Dark Horses behave when the spotlight hits them.

General point: A candidate who only appeals to the base, or the base plus Paultards, can be depended upon to drive the GOP off the cliff. Huckabee can actually be charming when needed — see his various Daily Show/Colbert appearances — distracting attention from what he’s actually talking about.

In other words, beware the GOP candidate you’d share a pint with. That’s where the danger lies.

@nojo: I thought we agreed to not use “touted” out of consideration for my nerves.

@JNOV: Yes, that’s it. We never actually got in- Fire Department.

Saw the “Dexter” guy though. Sacha Barron Cohen too, now that I think about it. That may have been an emu in a leather blazer, though.

@karen marie has her eyes tight shut: I was not a party to any such agreement, nor would I so recklessly preclude my linguistic options. And if we start holding comments to the same editorial standards as posts, everybody’s in trouble.

ADD: Yer damn lucky I didn’t reach for bruited.

the pint thing
that is why I worry about Johnson. shit. I would almost vote for him.
wants to cut the military, pro abortion, pro gay rights, wants to end the war on drugs, for decriminalization or pot .

but he also wants to eviscerate government.

@Capt Howdy:
and before you say this means he has no chance of winning a primary check this out from “conservatives for change . com”

Many of you have never heard of Gary Johnson, and I was the same until recently. Gary Johnson was the Governor of New Mexico 1995-2003 and is now being touted as a candidate for the Presidency in 2012. He has expressed his interest in the campaign for President and it has sparked my interest as well.

Johnson is making a name for himself because he is a Ron Paul Republican, and we all know that Ron Paul predicted a lot of what is happening in the economy right now. Johnson holds true conservative beliefs, and proved so while Governor of New Mexico.

Some of Johnson’s accomplishments as Governor:

* During his tenure, New Mexico experienced the longest period without a tax-increase in the state’s entire history.

* He cut the rate of government growth in half, left the New Mexico state government with a budget surplus and 1000 fewer employees (without firing anyone), privatized half of the prisons in the state, brought a state-wide school voucher system to New Mexico.

* Vetoed 750 bills (more than all the vetoes of the other 49 Governors in the country at that time, combined) with only 2 overrides, earning him the nickname Gary “Veto” Johnson.

* In 1999, Johnson became the highest-ranking elected official in the United States to advocate the legalization of drugs.

* Shifted Medicaid to managed care.

Is this what this country needs? The answer is pretty self explanatory being that all the issues he believes in would fix the country.

@nojo: Huckabee does have that down-home awww-shucks thing going for him.

@Tommmcatt is with Karin Marie on This One: Well, that’s lucky for you. People end up dead in bathtubs there and shit. You light up my life…

@Capt Howdy: Not counting Bush I, who drafted off Saint Ronnie, the last non-pint prez I can think of was Nixon.

Well, and maybe Jerry. But he was never elected in the first place.

The country remains as divided as ever, 45-45. The challenge is winning that last 10 percent, and Barry showed himself frustratingly adept at squatting on the middle during 2008. You can happily write off any GOP candidate with no midfield game.

@Capt Howdy: Since we have a correspondent on the ground in NM, I’ll defer to his judgment. Soon as he’s back from the shooting range.

@nojo: I’d like his take on this, from Greenspace:

New Mexico, the only state besides California to move forward on comprehensive global warming regulations, is reversing course under a new Republican governor, Susana Martinez. The move threatens to cripple the Western Climate Initiative, a California-driven effort to enact a regional trading program to curb greenhouse gas emissions.Martinez, who replaced Democrat Bill Richardson, announced on Tuesday that she is removing all members of New Mexico’s Environmental Improvement Board . . .

@Capt Howdy: Can’t wait to hear RML’s take on the guy.

Standard caveat: If the economy still sucks next year, all bets are off.

@nojo: 300K new jobs created in December 2010. Not bad.

@nojo: “Bruited” I could tolerate well. Feel free to substitute.

@Capt Howdy: There’s that fucking horrible word again! I break out in hives every time I see it.

@karen marie has her eyes tight shut: Bruited? Really? That’s a classic hack word, defined as something that would never pass the lips of a born American.

Now touted, that has a fine lineage, floating up into political discourse from the racetrack. It carries with it the exquisite bouquet of horseshit, which seems entirely appropriate to the conversation.

@mellbell: Yes, but…

We hit it off and I invited him to my parents’ house for a tribal feast day. I still would not support him for president.


@nojo: True. Good person/bad politician is a distinction easily lost on the American people.

the reaction I would expect. to be clear, I am not FOR him. I am simply afraid many others might be.

@Capt Howdy: It’s an interesting thought experiment — could a thoroughly libertarian Republican win the nomination as such?

last time I would have said no. Obama has changed everything.

they want mostly to win.

BTW, TPM has the teabaggers dividing by zero:

Right-Wingers Claim Muslim Brotherhood Has Infiltrated CPAC

Apparently the Mooslems have co-opted Grover Norquist as well. I always suspected the RW lunacy that was unleashed over the last two years would peak right after Obama got re-elected in 2012, but they appear to be on track to finish early. Either that, or they’ll discover an entirely new depth of insanity to sink to.

@al2o3cr: Grover Norquist is married? Who would fuck that troll?

/note to others: Norquist’s wife is a Mooslem. For realz. I’m more in shock that he’s married, period, than about him being married to a Muslim.

@al2o3cr: Let’s go to WorldNetDaily for the call:

Gaffney describes Norquist, who, ironically also serves on the board of the controversial GOProud, as the enabler for Muslim Brotherhood associates, providing them with access into the highest reaches of the conservative movement and the Republican Party through his many contacts. Norquist, the founder of Americans for Tax Reform, hosts a weekly political organizing meeting attended by many of the leading conservatives in Washington.

I want a Gadsden Flag with the snake eating its tail.

Norquist was actually investigated by the FBI guys for his connection to a shady Mooselm charity that had terrorist connections… pre 9/11. He’s no friend of the Ron Paul gang as I used to read antiwar.com which is a libertarian site.

@SanFranLefty: Let’s hope he’s getting fucked. Just not in the sense of rubbing dirty bits with his wife.

@ManchuCandidate: Grover’s part of the Class of Abramoff. Sure glad I watched the Casino Jack documentary a month back.

@Capt Howdy: No way. Most Americans think New Mexico is a foreign country. Might as well start the birth certificate rumors now.

@Mistress Cynica: Pfft. Indiana. Barely a state.

@mellbell: @Capt Howdy:

“…could a thoroughly libertarian Republican win the nomination … ?”

After careful consideration, I’d say NFW. I look at the 2008 Ron Paul campaign as the high water mark of libertarianish support inside the GOP. Where did he max out? 8% in New Hampshire? That’s it – that’s the max.

I figure the libertarianish leaning in the Democratic Party is about half that of Republicans ~ 4% or so. This actually ties well with the CATO studies that puts the libertarianish vote as about 12-14% (social liberal, fiscal conservative – not organized – not even consciously libertarian). Of that – maybe half will cancel itself out, but the other half will swing together in a general election with no real party fealty. It is not enough to ever win a presidential nomination or a general. Under the right circumstances, enough to get a few representatives or maybe a Senator elected under the banner of one major party or the other.

The interesting bit for me, is that if the bulk of the electorate remains split 45-45 (as Nojo contends) this group determines the outcome of the general elections – just because that 5-6% does seem to swing as a group. They can’t elect their own, but they’ll determine whether its R or D.

@SanFranLefty: I’ve posted on Johnson in response to a post by Mellbell. He’s a fucking clown and our new gov is headed straight to Disasterville.

I hope we are right about Johnson. I was not selling him but worrying about him.

I would rather not. worry about him that is.

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