Things We Didn’t Know



NASA today opened a new chapter in our understanding of the moon. Preliminary data from the Lunar CRater Observation and Sensing Satellite, or LCROSS, indicates that the mission successfully uncovered water during the Oct. 9, 2009 impacts into the permanently shadowed region of Cabeus cater near the moon’s south pole.

The impact created by the LCROSS Centaur upper stage rocket created a two-part plume of material from the bottom of the crater. The first part was a high angle plume of vapor and fine dust and the second a lower angle ejecta curtain of heavier material. This material has not seen sunlight in billions of years.

It costs about $250,000 to get a pound of anything to the moon, so a potential source of water is a good thing, if someone wanted to live there.  I can’t understand why they would, but there it is.

LCROSS Data Indicates Water on Moon [NASA]

Also for cheap fuel.

It can be electrolyzed into hydrogen and oxygen for rocket fuel.

Unlike JJ Abrams’ physics challenged version of Star Trek (I got into a serious nerd fight on because I shit on JJ’s view he can magically lift a 3Megatonne Starship off the Earth’s Surface), one can’t lift a lot of weight out of Earth’s gravity well so we need to find ready sources of fuel/oxygen and minerals on other places.

I wonder if the water is free from original sin

Does calling dibbs in a blog comment count as a legal claim to that water?

I see a trip to Sacramento and a Medal of Honor or some such from the Governator at a fabulous televised ceremony in my near future. Maybe I’ll meet some celebrities!

Probably not. 1960s era Moon Treaty sez, the people of Earf own it via the UN.

@Pedonator: Yeah – like that treaty we signed that said we’d prosecute any and all war crimes – FEH I say.

Hey, man, I will tell you whats up with this. If aliens had original sin, then they would need christ to save them. And that would mean it would be our duty to try to bring christ to them.

This would cost a great deal of money. Teh Vatican does not want to see the vast majority of the world’s resources spent sending missionaries to the stars, they could use that money to pay off every diddled alterboy, and build a Vatican in every neighborhood. Its always about the money, with the Vatican. Oh, and total world domination.

Would riparian or prior appropriation water law apply there? Prior appropriation = first in time, first in right as in here Out West. Non-Christian alien space beings using it to grow weed on the Dark Side of the Moon would therefore have an older right and higher priority in case of shortages when we get there with our flush toilets and golf courses for which we would have “junior” water rights to their “senior” water rights.

@al2o3cr: Charity? SOCIALIST!!!1!!1!

In re LCROSS: I woke up at 4:30 in the morning PDT to watch the whole thing at the Mount Wilson Observatory where Edwin Hubble did all his galactic exploration and stuff, about how we weren’t at the center of the universe. All I saw was a quick little blip when it happened. I should have stayed in bed.

@rptrcub: But you were there when we bombed the moon! You saw the beginning of the great Lunar-Terran Water War! Think of the stories you can tell your grandkids, assuming we’re not all wiped out by angry Loonies!

@redmanlaw: I’ll give up any and all claims, prior, junior or senior, as long as I get me some of that alien spaceweed. California can go thirsty, I’ll move up Mistress Cynica’s way.

@Pedonator: It’ll be like that Asimov story where dude gets alien vision for half an hour or something and finds out how profoundly beautiful it is, and tragic as well, because it’s a one time experience that he’ll never be able to get back to.

@Pedonator: Why on earth anyone would be excited about the idea of a trip to Excremento is beyond me…if Sandy Eggo takes the Moon water, does this mean that NorCal can now officially become its own state?


Why on earth anyone would be excited about the idea of a trip to Excremento is beyond me…

Because of the celebrities!!! I might meet!!

if Sandy Eggo takes the Moon water, does this mean that NorCal can now officially become its own state?

Now that we don’t need your water, you are free to go. SoCal will become a wetland paradise and you Northies can hug smelt to your hippie hearts’ content!

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: I’m not going to dredge up the “Finger Blast” music video again. You guys should be able to find it by now.

Shocked that this hasn’t popped up yet here, what with the cannibal anarchy and all:

Tea Partiers Eat Their Own In Bitter Internal Feud

The ‘baggers seriously look more and more like a Life of Brian revival gone horribly wrong…

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: What is the sound of one hand clapping? Carrie would know.

/ my birthday present to you

@Pedonator: The SoCal set whines about our six months or so of rain, but it does mean that we have water.

@Mistress Cynica: Not sure about Mac, but down in Bluejean the local water’s dependent on snowmelt, not rain.

Of course, you don’t get snowmelt without rain passing over the valley first, but concerns about water shortages aren’t foreign to Oregonians.

@al2o3cr: Did a drive-by a couple weeks back with the Judean Teabaggers Front, but we haven’t been keeping up with every twist.

@Mistress Cynica: I’m native to SoCal and I’m always amazed when I ask some non-native what brought them here. First, or occasionally second, is always the weather. The weather!

Enjoy the weather as you recycle your pee for drinking water bitchez, I’m outta here when personal economic conditions permit.

@nojo: It’s always snow melt that sustains civilization. I’ve seen climate prediction models that don’t bode well for Mistress Cynica’s neck of the woods. However, by the time desertification reaches coastal Oregon the only place to slake your thirst will be in the industrial wastelands of the tar sands and shale nuclear waste-strewn apocalypse of western Canadiastan or the deep-water drilling fields of the Arctic.

@Pedonator: With any luck, my massive coronary brought on by the enormous amounts of butter, eggs, and dairy I consume will have delivered me from this vale of tears by then. That, or the liver will have succumbed to excessive drinking, but I don’t hold out much hope for that. The livers of clan Cynica are famously indestructible.

@Mistress Cynica: Can’t think of a better or tastier way to go. Will you make me a cheese omelette to help me shake this mortal coil?

ADD: Cheese omelette with a few vodka martinis?

@Pedonator: First, or occasionally second, is always the weather. The weather!

First, second, third, fourth…

I did my forty years of overcast, and I’m done.

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