Hell Has Frozen Over

Or is he just messing with our head?

Meet the new Voice of Reason at Fox News…

O’REILLY: But you know, I want that, Ms. Owcharenko. I want that. I want, not for personally for me, but for working Americans, to have a option, that if they don’t like their health insurance, if it’s too expensive, they can’t afford it, if the government can cobble together a cheaper insurance policy that gives the same benefits, I see that as a plus for the folks.

Bill O’Reilly: Socialist. Did we miss an exit?

O’Reilly endorses the public option, which he previously called ‘socialism.’ [Think Progress]

He can’t switch teams now. He must go to the gallows with rest of the nazis. Say, it, fuckface, give us your last fucking sieg heil, you piece of fucking shit!

I called Bill up and we sat down and I esplaind shit to him. He goes “oh, okay, now I understand, that is cool”. See Bill is a sensible man once you talk with him, one Mick to another. He gave me an autographed loofah.

Okay, now I’m scared and ready to head for the ark. Seriously. This little switcheroo scares me more than The Impending Depression and Coming Cannibalistic Anarchy talk ever did. Seriously. o_O

Between that and the endorsement of the benefit taxes in the latest bill, I seriously believe today is opposite day for the wingnuts. What’s next, Operation Rescue announces that it’s now a pro-choice organization?

He’s probably been instructed to say a few rational things to counter the Glenn Beck crazy shitstorm. Murdoch can point to O’Reilly and say “see”!

Roll back the tape, Nojo, I think I predicted this one.

@al2o3cr: Maybe riding Metro in DC made them realize guv-mint ain’t all bad.

I won’t believe it until I see how the rest of that interview went. Think Progress’ clip ended right after the quote. I suspect that O’rly has only been edited into coherence.

He started trying to seem reasonable before the inauguration. Egomaniacs aren’t as bad as sociopaths and ideologues. Still utter shits, but more likely to buck trends, rebell even against their own.

I’d welcome him if he becomes a paultard-birther-randtard-Palintard basher. Hey, we need some loudmouthed assholes on our side, even if they are assholes.

See now, people, he’s a union man. And his union (I’m guessing A.F.T.R.A.) has really good coverage, including dental. (BTW, a new dentist opened here in Woodstock called Tanscen Dental. Impressive.) Once Bill got vested, as I’m sure he is, then when he hits retirement he gets free coverage for himself and family for life plus generous pension.

@Benedick: He also has a daddy complex, one of those guys who worships daddy, thinks he has to be a tough guy to please his abusive tough guy daddy. He may still remember that daddy was a working stiff. I am serious, too.

My Daddy was an Archie Bunker character, his vocabulary was racist, sexist, and homophobic to a comical degree, but his real human reactions to people were always decent and human. He’d refer to people using the most awful terms, but he never treated any individual person in any way other than fair and equal. He thought he was a conservative, but his real opinions were pure roosevelt democract, what would be called Communist these days. He is the one who told me, “vote democrat, they care about the average Joe (his name was Joe), the rich, they’ll just fuck you any way they can.” Thousands of remarks like this, oh, he was all class warfare, “the rich bastards will fuck over the working people every chance they get,” that kind of sentiment. Kept his sons out of vietnam, said to me “I’d send you to Canada before I would see you go fight in that bullshit war.”

His kind is disappearing, working people with real class consciousness, who see through the lies, who knew that in the end, its a struggle between the have nots and the haves, he is the reason I am so amazed, appalled, mystified, by the current state of politics, in which the most fucked-over and poor and screwed people throw their lot in with the rich fuckers who are screwing them.

Thats why I think OReilly may have some genuine populist in him, he does worship his daddy, and his daddy seems somewhat similar to mine.

A related story on the missile defense thing:


I guess this is a variant of IOKIYAR, namely IOKIYADC (defense contractor). How come stimulus jobs are “bad”, but make-work for the defense industry building weapons that will never be used is “good”…

TJ: For fuck’s sake, can we pick up the conversation I started on Gawker about why Barry is wearing a bulletproof vest for a photo op on the White House lawn? This makes me so bummed and sad, but look at that photo, scroll down to my comment, and come back to me here.

@al2o3cr: The part I like is that killing a defense system that doesn’t work puts us in danger.

@SanFranLefty: Looks to me like a shirt that has been starched to the point that it could be bulletproof.

@SanFranLefty: If he were smart he’d stay off the lawn, too. There are, what, 40 million people who voted for McCain, every last one of them seething with unquenchable rage and probably more than half of them armed to the teeth and fantasizing about shredding Obama with various assortments of ordnance. Our only hope is that the economy hits two, deeper, troughs and the neonazis, militiamen and jesufascists murder each other off in internecine, hinterlands warfare and cannibal retribution feuds. I dream of the day we tune into O’Reilly and he is sprawled on his desk with a hunting knife through his forehead and a skinhead is screaming into his microphone about O’Reilly going commie and the white power Republicans coming to cleanse America of weak-willed mud-people huggers like O’Reilly.

Cruel joke about defense spending.

There was a economic study on defense spending vs regular civy spending.

The economic benefits generated from military spending was 1:1 (basically you got your tax dollar back.)

The economic benefits generated from civy spending was 4-6:1 or 4 to 6 times the economic value of the tax dollar invested.

Defense spending is like giving money to a sports team. Overhyped for the actual return.

@SanFranLefty: That’s bad enough, but if Michelle and the girls have to start wearing them I will be sad, but sadly not surprised.

i nominate prommie fot today’s tweet

” we need some loudmouthed assholes on OUR side”

@Mistress Cynica: No shit, sister. But FSM knows that Shelley Oh! will rock the look.

@nojo: What, the photo or having to wear the vest? I think the photo was recent during some event to hype Chicago for the Olympics. The sweater combo looks like what Shelly Oh wore on 9/11 when she was doing community service with the GW students.

/really, I’m not stalking MO nor her outfits though it sounds like I am.

@baked: Thank you much, baked, but on the day of “you keep fucking that chicken,” nothing else ever really had a chance, did it? Good old Ernie Anastos.

I wish I were even half-baked.

@Prommie: I can’t even find the oven. Oh, that baked.

Hey, I owe you a reply Prom. The idea sounds good, have to figure the logistics. This weekend we’re shlepping used furniture down to my temporary digs. Oct. 12 is a holiday with the feds, 3 day weekend, is that too late? Ping me again over in the clubhouse.

@Prommie: Yes, Ernie was a lock from early Thursday morning. Instant classic.

@blogenfreude: I think you’re close — not that Mr. O’Clown is taking instructions from Ailes, but he had to do something to cut through all the attention Beck is getting. Reason is the new Radical.

@SanFranLefty: Wearing the vest. You noticed this one because of the peculiar angle of the photo and pose, but I’m wondering whether in fact it’s been common for years, even on the White House lawn. Don’t want to call it (distressing) news prematurely.

@nojo: There are some quarter-inch thick ultra light soft ballistic armor vests that can handle common handgun rounds at close range (although the wearer is still subject to blunt trauma injury), but which can be defeated by rounds fired from rifles that have higher velocity and more energy.

For instance, soft ballistic wear rated to the applicable National Institute of Justice Standard (IIIA?) can provide protection from a 124 grain full metal jacket bullet (the part that leaves the gun) fired from a 9 mm handgun that has about 337 ft lbs of energy at the muzzle, a figure that declines rapidly with distance.

On the other hand, the standard 55 grain .223/5.56 cal. FMJ round used by Our Fighting Forces and law enforcement fired from an AR-15 has about 1000 ft pounds of energy at 100 yards, and about 450 ft lbs at 300 yards, which is a lot more than the 9mm pistol round an ultra light vest would be rated for. In comparison, a 180 gr. hunting bullet fired from my deer and elk rifle chambered in .308 Win./7.62 NATO* (a common military and law enforcement sniper caliber that is outstanding for big game) would have about 2000 ft lbs of energy at 100 yards and at least 1500 ft lbs of energy at 200 yards, again, way more than an ultra light vest would be rated for and powerful enough to drop a horse sized animal at that distance with proper shot placement. That’s the plan, anyway, for four weeks from now.

*Designed to be the ballistic twin of the venerable .30-06 cartridge in a shorter case.


@nojo: I think he regularly started wearing the vest during the primary. He’s a skinny guy so even the high tech ones sometimes are visible depending upon what he’s wearing or if he’s moving in a certain way or the camera is at a different angle. I imagine that the Secret Service has fancy vests that are better than what the military have.

He was wearing a really bulky one when he threw out the pitch in St. Louis (where a sizable group of idiot rednecks booed him) – you could see it in some photos of him throwing out the first pitch because of the body mechanics and the angles, and I think that was why he was wearing a White Sox jacket buttoned at his neck and part of the reason why his throw was so off.

Ain’t gonna do nuthin to stop a headshot, whats the use?

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