Another Reason I Hate the Redskins

images (1)I have said that, had the Redskins been a better team in the late 70s and early 80s, my father would have lived for a couple more years.  And now I have another reason to hate them.

It would be hard to find a more loyal fan of the Washington Redskins than real estate agent Pat Hill. She’s had season tickets since the early 1960s, when her daughter danced in the halftime shows at the old D.C. Stadium, before it was renamed in memory of Robert F. Kennedy.

douchebag owner of douchebag team that will lose every game this seasonNow, Hill says, her beloved Redskins are forcing her into bankruptcy.

Last year, Hill’s real estate sales were hit hard by the housing market crash, and she told the team that she could no longer afford her $5,300-a-year contract for two loge seats behind the end zone. Hill said she asked the Redskins to waive her contract for a year or two.

The sales office declined.

On Oct. 8, the Redskins sued Hill in Prince George’s County Circuit Court for backing out of a 10-year ticket-renewal agreement after the first year. The team sought payment for every season through 2017, plus interest, attorneys’ fees and court costs.

Hill couldn’t afford a lawyer. She did not fight the lawsuit or even respond to it because, she said, she believes that the Bible says that it is morally wrong not to pay your debts. The team won a default judgment of $66,364.

But wait, there’s more:

Hill is one of 125 season ticket holders who asked to be released from multiyear contracts and were sued by the Redskins in the past five years. The Washington Post interviewed about two dozen of them. Most said that they were victims of the economic downturn, having lost a job or experiencing some other financial hardship.

Yet neither the Jets nor the Giants sue their fans.  Imagine that.

Daniel Snyder is a fucking billionaire.  And, apparently, a complete douchebag.

For Redskin’s Fans, Hard Luck Runs Into Team’s Hard Line [WaPo]

Are you ready for some lawsuits?

@nojo: And the fucking stadium is in the middle of fucking nowhere. And it’s ugly. And it’s some of the most expensive food and drink in the NFL. Fucking fuckers.

@blogenfreude: Yeungling on tap, but I had to get out of my seat and go find it. Bratwurst, but not good brats. Good place for soccer, cuz you can easily bum rush the pitch to get a jump on the rioting.

Man, I don’t know who to hate here: the ruthless corporate bastards or the ultraChristian realtard.

She signed a 10-year contract in 2007 – apparently, she was drinking the “real estate goes up forever” kool-aid she was selling. Most sensible people in her profession at that point would have realized things were already going south.

Or maybe she was planning on paying for the tickets with a HELOC!

@al2o3cr: She’s religious, but that doesn’t mean she should get fucked over by a billonaire.

@al2o3cr: “Heloc, heloc – I’m in a place called Vertigo. It’s everything I didn’t want to know.”

About a dozen teams are looking at local broadcast blackouts because home games are not selling out. I think the NFL should waive the local blackout rule at least for this year, because if there was ever a time we needed our circuses, it’s now.

@al2o3cr: It’s easy enough for me. I’ve been hating the Washington team so long it’s second nature.

The 10 year contract rubbed me the wrong way because she’s 73 years old. Did she really think she’d live long enough (and have the physical and mental capability) to fulfill it even if the market kept going up?

@Jamie Sommers: I’m wondering if this publicity will make the Redskins do the right thing. I doubt it.

@blogenfreude: I do too. On the other hand, DC is a town full of lawyers that’s got to know the Redskins had a slim chance of recovering anything if she had responded since their waiting list for season tickets is so long. Surely, they’ve recovered, or will recover, most if not all of the remaining amount on the contract.


$5,300 a year for SPORT?

To watch sport games?

$5,300 a year? And you have to sign a contract?

I have never heard of anything like this before in my life. This costs more than the Met. Plus you have to listen to all that racket and look at commercials all night. This is the one with the bat, right? The bat sport with the running? I went once. It was deafening. I had to go to the parking lot to rest. Cricket sport may be boring but at least you can get some reading done.

$5,300 A YEAR?

@Benedick: No, not the one with the bat. The one where the players wear spandex and oversized shoulder pads and knock the bejeezus out of each other.

Sadly, yes.

It’s even worse when you break it down to 5,300 a year for 8 games + playoffs (not in the Redskins case, but you know.)

@Benedick: When real estate was moving and everyone with a pulse was being thrown six-figures in credit, she probably could make more than double that in a single sale – for a pretty average house. Yeah, for standing around in a kitchen for 5 minutes lying to a buyer.

@Benedick: The NY Giants charge, $5, 10, somtimes 20 thousand for a seat license – that only allows you to buy tickets and keep the seat from one year to the next.

@Benedick: The Steelers (RealAmerica’s Team ™) offer last minute tickets for competitive Sport at $80 for seats of hard plastic, usually very high up and quite cold but you have a fine view of the field. There is much boisterous fun including in the parking lot before the game, where you find open grills with lots of meat and cold alcoholic beverages (usually beer, but often decent wine and a mixed coctail from time to time). There is music (Gary Glitter, Ramones, and sometimes even live accordion polka) and dancing (when points are scored). Grown men will frequently hug, sometimes weep, occasionally even kiss.

@The Nabisco Quiver: Sounds like Sundays in the Village.

But srsly. I am beyond shocked at the price. I guess I should get out more.

@Jamie Sommers: And they dance a lot. But not in the good way. You look at them and think what Michael Kidd could’ve done with them.


Religious is one thing; claiming that you “don’t believe in bankruptcy” is a whole ‘nother level. FFS, bankruptcy has its historical roots in the Bible (Deuteronomy 15:1-2, for instance).

And reading the article, it’s even worse. She’s having problems because she’s got a $5000 ARM payment – under the some pretty bad assumptions (15 year, 8.5%) that means she’s sitting in a $500k+ house. Not exactly having a bad time.

Next, she’s sitting on that $5k a month ARM with a monthly pension income of $3600. What was she planning when she signed *that* loan? Was she planning on working until the day she died to pay off the house?

But then we read that she’s behind by $100k on the ARM. Assuming some really nasty fees from the mortgage company, that’s still at least a year worth. If she wasn’t paying the mortgage, or the utilities, or for the tickets, where did that $$$ go?

And furthermore, should I take from the article that she’s 72 and has NO SAVINGS? Or did she convert it all into house, as her profession was fond of suggesting to buyers during the bubble?

So what I see in her case isn’t a victim of a big corporation, but a typical participant in the madness. In her case, she’s one of the actors who directly drove the bubble (hint: $200k in potential commissions on 20 sales does not suggest “affordable housing” – that’s an average price of $300k+).

It’s like reading about a casino manager who lost all his money gambling.

I can think of another reason to hate them. Their fucking name is the REDSKINS! It’s the 21st century, for chrissake. Lose the racist name.

@al2o3cr: Sounds like someone miscalculated the date the of the rapture.

Fuck the Redskins and their racist name and their moran fans. I don’t feel sorry for that moran dumb ass. Stay at home, order a spread of champagne and food, and like Benedick pointed out, you’ll probably save money.

Plus, fuck the Deadskins.

/signed, (RIP) Oilers fan & Cowboys fan from pre- Romo/T.O. days

@SanFranLefty: Didn’t the Oilers become the Titans, but after the Colts went to Indianapolis and the Ravens became the new Colts when the Browns moved to Baltimore but then the Browns resurfaced and have pretty much always sucked, whereas the Ravens have been mean, Oakland Raider-like opponents to the Steelers who always come out on top anyway so I’m happy?

It’s hard keeping up. At least Joe Gibbs is still around, right?

@The Nabisco Quiver: Yes, the Oilers moved to Nashville, and so I say RIP, because the Houston Texans are a fake new team.

as for Joe Gibbs and Sonny Jurgensen being with the Deadskins, I have no idea.

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