Please Don’t Hate Us for Hating You

You blow twenty million bucks to deny Americans their rights as human beings, and what do you get for it? Grief.

“People of faith have been intimidated for simply exercising their democratic rights… These are not actions that are worthy of the democratic ideals of our nation. The end of a free and fair election should not be the beginning of a hostile response in America.”

That was a statement issued Friday by Mormon leaders, who apparently didn’t expect to be held accountable for their actions.

Which in no way is related to another statement from a church spokesman decrying other people of faith for exercising their democratic rights to vote against a Mormon candidate in the Republican presidential primaries:

“Latter-day Saints were just amazed to think there was such bigotry in the country.”

Because when you do it, it’s a matter of principle.

Mormon Church feels the heat over Proposition 8 [LAT]
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Gee Mormoni. The Golden Rule applies here, too. But not in a good way.

As part of the cause, I hereby commit myself to the leading of young college-age Mormon missionary boys astray.

@rptrcub: That shouldn’t be too difficult.

The Mormon Church is more than welcome to inject themselves and their $20 million plus into the “democratic process” as soon as they give up their tax-free status. Just keep it in their own fucking theocratic state and don’t export it to my state.

@SanFranLefty: Sadly, they’re probably going to be involved in the fight here against gay adoption come January. We’ve been warned that our GOP is probably going to move to do that during this session.

If the GOP overreaches here, there could be consequences for Atlanta attracting progressive companies here. Atlanta is already losing top corporate recruiting due to our bad traffic; I wouldn’t mind seeing companies openly rejecting Southern states due to their policies. They might get some new manufacturing jobs due to our anti-union policies, but the well-educated corporate jobs may not come here anymore.

kids!
rat is in da house! showed up like santa claus with a hard on. needless to say, it was a glorious reunion. gifts, love, commitment back on track.
EXCEPT, he shows up with his wedding band on his right hand. wtf.
and here’s the worst: this man has NEVER worn cologne. hates it, and so do i. he unpacks his toiletries, and lo and behold, this includes a bottle of vile armani cologne. (no doubt a gift from HER) after i threw it in the trash and sprayed febreeze everywhere including his face, i had a meltdown. “i thought this was day one of our reconciliation? you fucking put a fucking SOUVENIER of your affair in MY BATHROOM????? why don’t you just prop her up on the counter, same thing. you IDIOT” he was contrite, sorry, wasn’t thinking. he needs work, but other than that, it has been the reunion i hoped for. we’re taking the day to play, ride a horse, swim in the ocean. we’re together. YAY!!!!

@rptrcub: Don’t get me started on the gay adoption/foster bans. I truly get an aneurysm on that one. If Georgia is going down the path of Arkansas, Florida, and Mississippi, they deserve to have progressive companies leave. Dan Savage had a good piece on the Arkansas initiative which of course doesn’t stop at gays.

@baked: A Vial of Vile cologne? All of a sudden I am hearing Danny Kaye and “the pellet with the poison is in the chalice from the palace; the flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true.”

Yay for you!

@baked: Glad things are going well. Do Israelis wear wedding rings on their left or right hands? My mother and her German husband wear theirs on the right, and I know it varies in other countries too. Have fun at the beach!

@baked: I hope it all works out for you, dear.

@SanFranLefty: After I finish my graduate degree in 2010 (I get a free tuition waiver since I work for a public university), I may leave as well. I will learn to deal with New England or Toronto* winters.

*Subject to Stephen Fattycheeks Harper not getting a Conservative majority parliament.

You know, the differences between your different factions of religions couldn’t be more stark.

Catholics — Preaching pre- and post-election about how voters for Barry are going straight to hell. After mass: meeting with lawyers. (Bad news — it isn’t slander if it’s true. Back to drawing board.)

Episcopalians — Churches deciding to align themselves a church province headquartered in (I shit you not) Argentina in order to remain Anglican while avoiding support of the marrying of the gays, female priests, etc.

Mormons: Heirarchy takes out their anger about Mittens not getting nominated on California and the same gays.

Unitarians: Psychopath shoots up a church in Tennessee because of its politics. Church prays, and does not break faith. Nation yawns.

@baked: All men are idiots. It’s just a matter of degree.

@baked: So that took the heat offa you for the oven thing? BTW, does the ring fit better on one hand than the other? Is it too tight on the dominant hand? I had a loose wedding ring on whatever is the proper hand is and I lost it at a ranch six weeks after I was married whilst landing the second-largest rainbow trout ever pulled out of those ponds (Paul Newman’s daughter has the largest). It must have gone 32 in. at least and flopped over both edges of a Coleman 48 qt cooler. So I caught the giant fish, lost the ring, there were some wifely tears shed over the ring I designed that was made by my cousin the jeweler and we’re still married 14 or 15 years later.

baked: “Vile. For Men. When You Want To Piss Off Someone You Hurt. Available at Macy’s.”

White light to you — hope the reconciling results in a lifetime in “whatever you want, dears”.

Tax the living shit out of the fuckers. Just like bankrupting a white supremacist group – show them the wages of hate.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. -Jesus Christ, “Matthiew 23:27”, The Holy Bible

“Nuff said.

@blogenfreude: Hey Stinquers! I will be posting instructions at some point today for how to file an official complaint with the IRS about the Mormon churches’ 501(c)3 status. Just print and fill out the forms and you are all set. Coming soon…

@homofascist: Rock On! Southern Baptists: it is soooooo on.

@Dodgerblue: Speaking of idiots, remember how we were talking about God and the Cali fires and the Prop 8 vote? Well, apparently it’s teh Gheyz’ fault that California is on fire, because we were all protesty and stuff, according to James Hartline:

God keeps trying to get their attention. They, for their part, are shouting so loud for the acceptance of homosexuality, that they cannot hear the thunderous warnings of God: “Repent! For the judgment comes soon!”

Each time homosexual activists attempt to force their agenda on California, there have been raging, massive, incinerating fires sweeping across the California landscape.

Today, people are running for their lives as 800 California homes have burned down and the firestorm is spreading like a nuclear holocaust. Yet, the radical homosexual anarchists rampage upon the streets of this state demanding the destruction of marriage and family, and the establishment of their socialistic dark vision for society.

You see, the problem is this: God has plans for California in the near days ahead. Thus, these attempts to force an ungodly tyranny on this state are being met blow with blow by God. God is saying, “California shall be a refuge for America when the catastrophes come. California belongs to Me, not the advocates of sexual anarchy.”

The more that homosexual activists press their battle in California, the more there will be great calamaties [sic]in this state.

I also remember Falwell and Robertson saying [besides blaming 9/11 on us] that great hurricanes were gonna hit the United States because of its tolerance of homosexuality. Well, guess where the ‘canes hit that year? Virginia Beach, HQ for the Christian Broadcasting Network.

I have come to the conclusion that God is an angry lesbian of color.

Oh, and Hartline? That’s homofascists, not anarchists.

@chicago bureau: I’m partial to my grandpa’s catchphrase, “Yes, beloved.”

@rptrcub: Wait, didn’t God create us all? And doesn’t he love us all? Or are we reading from a different script, Mr. Hartline?

@IanJ: The angel Moron(i) created us for his particular pleasure of watching people get repressed.

@rptrcub: Wow. I’ve lived in So Cal all my life and never before made the association between gay rights and brushfires — we have brushfires here every fall. Is Hartline suggesting that gays fuck so hard that sparks fly?

@IanJ: Also, Prince is now on the Ghey Enemies List. Remember, we’re more vindictive than Nixon, and I’m sure I can find our version of G. Gordon Liddy.

When asked about his perspective on social issues—gay marriage, abortion—Prince tapped his Bible and said, “God came to earth and saw people sticking it wherever and doing it with whatever, and he just cleared it all out. He was, like, ‘Enough.’ ”

@Dodgerblue: No, we have the good sense to use lube. It’s the fundies who are fucking the country without it.

@IanJ, cubbie: “God Hates Us All” Slayer.

“Mankind in his insatiable search for divine
Knowledge has discarded all biblical teachings

Realizing that the strength of religion is the repression of
knowledge
All structures of religion have collapsed

***
We hold these truths to be painfully self-evident
All men are not created equal
Only the strong will prosper
Only the strong will conquer
Only in the darkness of Christ have I realized
God Hates Us All”

Oh, and the cd was released on September 11, 2001.

@rptrcub: The Artist formerly known as talented will be punished most by being ignored.
@chicago bureau: Even better to me are the racist white Episcopalians in SC going to an African bishop. I laugh and laugh.

Maybe this douchebag Hartline can illuminate me on why God is all pissy and shitting on Cali for their gheyz a-fomenting and demanding socialized marriage for buttfucking and leg-licking, but God ain’t all pissy about the gheyz in Massachuetts and their socialized and sodomized marriages and he hasn’t rained down some awesome shit on them (besides the Kennedys). But wait, maybe most of them are Catholics, so God looks the other way.

@Mistress Cynica: I wish someone could explain to me that in the South, the closer you are to the coast, the more right wing the Episcopalians are? Georgia and S.C. are the two prime examples I can think of. The Atlanta and Upper S.C. dioceses are sane; the ones in Savannah and Charleston are reichwing.

@rptrcub: @Mistress Cynica: Damn. I love Prince. If only he hadn’t let those Jehovah’s Witnesses in the front door…

@rptrcub: Inbreeding is my best guess. Those old Episcopal families have been marrying each other (because no one else was good enough) since the late 17th century.

@Mistress Cynica: Christ Church in Savannah is the worst of ’em.

@rptrcub: Members of St Michael’s in Charleston would be quick to point out that theirs is the oldest Episcopal church in the US, and don’t you forget it, Savannah.
There, in a nutshell, is why I moved west.

@Mistress Cynica: Did you start out in life in SC? It’s a very strange place, I think. Maybe because their conscience is so bad. Over the years, the few people I’ve met from SC, and that’s not many, took about less than five minutes to ask me where I stood on race. I’m clearly white, and so were all of them.

I should add that I was always so surprised, stunned, that I waffled. I grew up in a small town in northern Indiana. there were maybe two black families. I would like to think that I would be heroic, since as long ago as I can remember, I’ve always been for the underdog, passionately. Which brings me to a reading recommendation. Alan Furst. I discovered him about two years ago, I think. I have now read all of his novels about Europeans caught up in the thirties and forties of the last century, I think it’s now nine novels, each of which I have read at least three times each. If you haven’t discovered him yet, start with Dark Star.

@lynnlightfoot: I did, I’m afraid. The race thing is weird. I was taught never to say the N-word, because it wasn’t kind and a lady didn’t do such things. The person I loved most in the world, next to my grandmother, was the black woman who took care of me. I cried to go home with her at night. I never could understand why anyone would hate someone like her. My grandfather was very “love the individual, hate the race,” which also made no sense. My penchant for rational thought made the South a nightmare for me, so I escaped to the Midwest when I was 15.

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