The National Debate

Instant Update! Well, that’s settled

“It is important to make sure that very graphic photos of somebody who was shot in the head are not floating around as an incitement to additional violence or as a propaganda tool,” said the president.

“We don’t trot out this stuff as trophies,” Mr. Obama added. “The fact of the matter is, this is somebody who was deserving of the justice that he received.”

Well, darn. What would be so bad about a head on a pike on Pennsylvania Avenue?


TJ: Nojo, remember when I discussed the whole “GOP-cutting-the-National Weather Service” angle during the aftermath of the tornadoes? Well, found more proof of GOP dumbassery.

@rptrcub: Surely the free market can pick up the slack. To paying customers only, of course.

@rptrcub: And of course, these same asshats couldn’t start screaming for federal aid quickly enough.

Any bets on how long it will take for the photos to be leaked?

Speaking of debates, who’s tuning in for tomorrow’s “depleted line-up” of Republican presidential hopefuls?

@mellbell: I’m very much on the fence. There’s the enhanced Popcorn Value of how they spin Osama, but “they” are all the third-stringers.

That, plus, y’know, watching Fox for two hours.

@nojo: T-Paw is second-tier, but I hear what you’re saying.

@Mistress Cynica: On or by Sunday, with the leak forcing an official release.

Yo, steenks – have you heard about the Bin Laden Memorial Headache? Feels like half your head has been blow away. (Updates the JFK joke updating the Lincoln joke for a new generation).

Breaking: DOJ Giving the Stink Eye to NCAA and BCS

The Justice Department has sent a pointed letter to the NCAA asking why there isn’t a playoff system for college football, saying “serious questions” continue to be raised about whether the current Bowl Championship Series complies with federal antitrust laws.


Photographs acquired by Reuters and taken about an hour after the U.S. assault on Osama bin Laden’s compound in Abbottabad in Pakistan show three dead men lying in pools of blood, but no weapons.

The photos, taken by a Pakistani security official who entered the compound after the early morning raid on Monday, show two men dressed in traditional Pakistani garb and one in a t-shirt, with blood streaming from their ears, noses and mouths.

The official, who wished to remain anonymous, sold the pictures to Reuters.

Images provided. I think. I’m having a hard time loading the page.

@redmanlaw: Did you hear about how blue his eyes were?

Yup, one blew this way, the other blew that way.

(Updating the Challenger jokes that appeared almost immediately – before the interwebz)

@nojo: Ah, but weren’t the SEALS – and the corpse – gone by the time the Paki heat showed up? Those bodies won’t be UBL…

@Nabisco: More than one corpse. Americans always leave litter behind.

@redmanlaw: Doing away with the bullshit BCS system would get Obama re-elected in a landslide.

@Mistress Cynica: No shit, he’d probably even win Idaho given the perpetual disrespect the BCS directs toward Boise State.

You could be right especially since the GOP would have to argue for the BCS as being a great public-private (teams representing public universities, for the most part, providing fodder for local bowl committees) collaboration that pumps money into local economies.

I’m for suppressing the photos of dead OBL just so I’ll be spared the sight of the photos on t-shirts.

@SanFranLefty: the first BCS champion was the Tennessee Volunteers led by Tee Martin, Al Wilson, Peerless Price, Travis Henry, Shawn Bryson, Cosey Coleman, Darwin Walker, Shaun Ellis, Dwayne Goodrich, and Deion Grant. All but the qb Martin had notable NFL careers. Jamaal Lewis was on the team but was injured early against Auburn and missed the rest of the season. Go Vols.

That year margin of victory was a factor in the BCS rankings used to determine the top 2 teams who played for the championship. In late october the Vols were playing bama-B (aka UAB or alabama-birmingham) and holding a slim 14-10 lead in the third quarter with Tennessee ranked 8th in the BCS standings. I had nicknamed a fan who sat a few seats down the aisle from me mountain because he was as big as a mountain and proud of his new nickname. Mountain had two tickets for himself which most folks his size don’t do and he could move the 40 some odd seat metal bench we all sat on just by sitting or standing. Mountain knew what was at stake and lambasted the coaching staff the whole game over his concerns about the conservative game plan. He would yell loud enough for folks in other sections to hear, “throw the goddamn ball, it’s fucking UAB!!!!” I thought it was funny and enjoyed it. others didn’t though, but most were afraid to confront the mountain. One brave soul went and got the cops who followed him back to our row. The cops took one look at mountain, turned around and went back to their post at the concession stand leaving the fan to face mountain on his own. He didn’t and left. Fortunately, the coaching staff heeded mountains advice and threw the ball scoring 3 tds in the 4th quarter to win 35-10, pump up our margin of victory and assure a place in the title game for the Vols.
So if you ever see UAB live or on tv please yell at the top of your lungs, “throw the goddamn ball, it’s fucking UAB” and all will work out for the best.

@jwmcsame: Unfortunately last season I was screaming “throw the goddamn ball, it’s fucking Baylor” or “throw the goddamn ball, it’s fucking Rice” [or insert name of UT’s opponent of the week] but the post-Colt McCoy Longhorns didn’t listen to me.

I don’t know if this season will be any better; luckily, I have more than one school to cheer for, therefore, “Go Tree, throw the goddamn ball, it’s fucking UCLA.”

The best part of a New Mexico Lobo home game is the third quarter alcohol-fueled domestic dispute in the cheap seats. Also: seeing fear on the the faces of the Lobo offensive linemen through high power binoculars as they are brutalized by the Texas schools’ defenses.

@SanFranLefty: no doubt the longhorns will return to prominence one day if they take mountains advice and throw the goddamn ball. if the cotton bowl replaces the corrupted fiesta , soon to be siesta bowl in the BCS hierarchy, maybe the vols and horns will meet there one day for all the marbles. in the mid eighties, i think ’83, y’all knocked off#1 (or close) ranked auburn very early in the season and killed their buzz quick like. i appreciate that. the next week auburn came to knoxville and killed our buzz. undaunted by our ass whuppin’, i saluted the auburn fans with the hook ’em horns sign all day long. on our way out, a friend of mine spit a trophy phloogey on an auburn fan who took exception to my sign language. the auburn fan was too fat to get up and chase after us. there are a lot of fat football fans in the southeastern conference. but if you have quick feet they can do you no harm.

what about harbaugh going to the 49ers? six times this year you can yell “throw the godamn ball, its fucking arizona/seattle/st louis” as well. i’ll take crabtree and of course vernon davis on my fantasy team but not gore, he gets hurt too much. the 49er defense should keep them in contention for an nfc west title though. 7-9 won it last year.

@redmanlaw: the college football world is a small world. tee martin, qb on the vols aforementioned 1998 national title team was an assistant coach under mike locksley two years ago at new mexico. tee is now at kentucky as wr coach. check out his recent pupil, knoxville area product randall cobb who just got drafted as a wr/rb/pr/kr by the packers. tee said in our paper recently that mike locksley taught him much about coaching and recruiting and considers mike his mentor. tee had nothing but good things to say about new mexico. tee is highly regarded here on rocky top. so highly regarded on campus that his statue stands next to that of tennessee jesus, none other than peyton manning. edgerrin james once nicknamed peyton, p money.

@jwmcsame: If New Mexico could have found buyout money this year, they would have fired Locksley at the end of the season. UNM is always pretty bad, but they reached a new low this year, hovering around dead last in the college football rankings. I can’t imagine how one pitches the opportunity to play for this team to recruits.

@redmanlaw: i guess that’s why tee left. good coaches still get fired sometimes. tennessee fired two national championship winners, johnny majors and phil fulmer. y’all might wanna look at mike leach in the future. he took players that the other texas schools didn’t want and won at texas tech.

for the lane kiffin haters out there, the word around starkville, mississippi, auburn, alabama and knoxville, tennessee is that cam newton took 100 grand from miss. st boosters and then signed with auburn for more, raking in at least a quarter million. that estimate may go higher if rumors that lane kiffin while at tennessee barely lost the bidding war for newton to auburn after newton spurned miss. st. word is that newton charged kiffin and company an upfront fee just to start negotiations and kiffin or our boosters lost some big cash to newton that way. ncaa is investigating. more to come. dead trees may be the least of auburns worries.

@jwmcsame: Lobo Nation wanted Leach, who was unjustly booted from Mrs RML’s alma mater after he pissed off the wrong dude for disciplining wrong dude’s son, but the buyout was too big for Locksley. The contract has since been amended to reduce the buyout amount.

@redmanlaw: mr wrong dude, craig james has no room to criticize any college player or coach. he was obviously getting paid for playing at the SMU pony excess making him one of college footballs biggest cheaters of all time. my dad was a trainer for the VOLS in the late 50’s for books and a dorm room in the fall. back then the players who were injured and couldn’t practice or play had to work as hard as the trainers with them and work the players cafeteria just to keep their scholarships until they were well enough to practice and play. none ever complained either because one would get a one way ticket back home for doing so. wrong dude, jr got off easy and surely couldn’t have hung back in the day.

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