Appomattox

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Remind me again why the north fought so hard to keep those states?

I thought the South did win the Civil War. They’ve polluted our politics ever since.

@Benedick: Welcome to Plantation America.

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Dear Nuge: as fuckheads like you were fond of pointing out every time somebody dared complain about Shrub, IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, GET THE FUCK OUT.

Though the list of places with “limited” enough government to make the average wingnut happy that *aren’t* filled with people whose skin color they’ll find icky is awful damn short…

Also, too – all the “OMG THE SOUTH SHULDA WON” people need to be reminded that the Confederacy was already collapsing internally before the war ended; in a move that shocked exactly nobody, an organization founded on “feds can’t tell me what to do” was about to have several states secede.

@SanFranLefty: no problrm …

@al2o3cr:
I wonder if Teddy knows that the CSA instituted a draft (of course, Teddy knew how to evade the draft) and war taxes before the North did. Actually he should move to Afghanistan–limited government and lots of guns.

@SanFranLefty: Interesting article, with links to even more interesting source material. One quibble: she cites the New Deal and the interstate highway system as the main reasons behind the rise of the New South and Sunbelt, without mentioning that the key economic factor was the eagerness of her precious “noblesse oblige” Yankee elites to exploit non-unionized labor in the South and the consequent relocation of much of the North’s industrial work.
Yes, I’m a bitter descendant of the brutal, anti-intellectual Southern aristocracy. You think you’re better’n me?

@Mistress Cynica: The South had its capital tied up in land and had a fundamentally unsustainable agricultural business model. They are still learning from the North that you mortgage the land for capital and use wage slaves instead of real slaves.

@Jesuswalksinidaho:
He’d have pooped his pants either way.

@Mistress Cynica: During lunch I walked over to the closest independent book store and bought one of the books she mentions, American Nations. Read the first 15 pages while eating lunch. His analysis is more nuanced than that in the article.

@SanFranLefty: I googled it at lunch (since I’m out in the country) and found excerpts serialized on Bloomberg. I’d like to read the whole thing.
@Dodgerblue: That land thing runs deep. It’s the whole reason I own a house–I had to have land.

Nugent is “beginning to wonder” something that is and has been an article of faith in most Red States continuously and fervently since 1865.

Big.Fucking.Deal.

Nugent is, was, and ever shall be a douchebag.

In the Southern United states, the pinnacle and non plus ultra of “freedom” is the white man’s freedom to own slaves.

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@SanFranLefty: Fascinating article. The truest explanation of the beliefs and behavior of our deranged political and financial aristocracy that I’ve ever read.

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@ Mizz Cynica: I’ll send you the book when I’m done with it.