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		<title>By: Nabisco</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/12/03/the-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-57226</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57206&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Capt Howdy&lt;/a&gt;: Howdy, Cap&#039;n</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57206" rel="nofollow">Capt Howdy</a>: Howdy, Cap&#8217;n</p>
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		<title>By: nojo</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/12/03/the-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-57210</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, in summary: Beyond the things we would expect any Dem preznit to accomplish (less-atrocious judicial appointments and such), and beyond the very welcome fact he&#039;s Not Bush and Not McCain, there&#039;s nothing in particular to recommend Obama?

Well, he&#039;s been lucky in his opponents before, and it looks like he&#039;ll be lucky again. But I won&#039;t be surprised if Shepard Fairey sits out the next round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, in summary: Beyond the things we would expect any Dem preznit to accomplish (less-atrocious judicial appointments and such), and beyond the very welcome fact he&#8217;s Not Bush and Not McCain, there&#8217;s nothing in particular to recommend Obama?</p>
<p>Well, he&#8217;s been lucky in his opponents before, and it looks like he&#8217;ll be lucky again. But I won&#8217;t be surprised if Shepard Fairey sits out the next round.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Howdy</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/12/03/the-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-57206</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57202&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mistress Cynica&lt;/a&gt;: 
is that a unit of BlackWater?
 
some of Sandys stories were not about women.  from what she said Afghanistan is like another planet in many ways.  for one thing I was shocked to learn that it is not only common but totally acceptable and even considered upscale for a man to have one or more &quot;little boys&quot; to tend to his needs.  she had pictures of some of them.  unbelievable.  even more unbelievable is what happens to them when they are to old to be cute any more.
another stunner was about public sanitation.  she said that there were &quot;areas&quot; and we are talking about cities not middle of no where, where people, men actually, would hike their  jalabas and take a dump.  right in the middle of everything.  and then just walk away.  no muss no fuss no wiping.
anyway.  her stories convinced me that as curious as I might be I dont think I ever really want to visit this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57202" rel="nofollow">Mistress Cynica</a>:<br />
is that a unit of BlackWater?</p>
<p>some of Sandys stories were not about women.  from what she said Afghanistan is like another planet in many ways.  for one thing I was shocked to learn that it is not only common but totally acceptable and even considered upscale for a man to have one or more &#8220;little boys&#8221; to tend to his needs.  she had pictures of some of them.  unbelievable.  even more unbelievable is what happens to them when they are to old to be cute any more.<br />
another stunner was about public sanitation.  she said that there were &#8220;areas&#8221; and we are talking about cities not middle of no where, where people, men actually, would hike their  jalabas and take a dump.  right in the middle of everything.  and then just walk away.  no muss no fuss no wiping.<br />
anyway.  her stories convinced me that as curious as I might be I dont think I ever really want to visit this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Mistress Cynica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mistress Cynica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57197&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rptrcub&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57198&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Capt Howdy&lt;/a&gt;: I think that&#039;s what we&#039;re sending Nabeesco to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57197" rel="nofollow">rptrcub</a>: @<a href="#comment-57198" rel="nofollow">Capt Howdy</a>: I think that&#8217;s what we&#8217;re sending Nabeesco to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Howdy</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/12/03/the-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-57198</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57197&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rptrcub&lt;/a&gt;: 
incredible.  a friend I used to have at Disney was married to an Afghan man and had amazing stories to tell about the time she spent there.  we seriously cant imagine what women have to deal with there.

&lt;i&gt;I want to hear about what we’re doing regarding health and education. About schools. About hospitals with sterile medical equipment. About jobs.&lt;/i&gt;

last night I was watching Maddow and she produced a chart supposedly from the Joint Chiefs (I think) that seemed to suggest they are at least considering some of the things you mention.  Maddow basically uses the chart to ridicule it but I thought it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show#34248277&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at least a tiny bit hopeful&lt;/a&gt; in that are at least considering something besides killing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57197" rel="nofollow">rptrcub</a>:<br />
incredible.  a friend I used to have at Disney was married to an Afghan man and had amazing stories to tell about the time she spent there.  we seriously cant imagine what women have to deal with there.</p>
<p><i>I want to hear about what we’re doing regarding health and education. About schools. About hospitals with sterile medical equipment. About jobs.</i></p>
<p>last night I was watching Maddow and she produced a chart supposedly from the Joint Chiefs (I think) that seemed to suggest they are at least considering some of the things you mention.  Maddow basically uses the chart to ridicule it but I thought it was <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show#34248277" rel="nofollow">at least a tiny bit hopeful</a> in that are at least considering something besides killing them.</p>
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		<title>By: rptrcub</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today, I interviewed an interesting Afghani M.P.H. student -- a female MPH student &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; an MD -- who learned medicine during the Soviet occupation, practiced medicine through the civil war and watched in horror during the Taliban as she was one of few female doctors, which were allowed to practice medicine with women only. She had need for specialists, who were all men, and by the time she got help via passing notes, essentially, in a bureaucratic fascist maze, from the senior male doctors, many of her patients died. Need a gyno? Forget about it, and many women died from postpartum hemorrhages.

She worked with NGOs where she was able to learn, in secret, how to use a computer (since women could not get an education).  She survived Taliban rule and then came to the US to learn about public health, so that she can make a dent in the atrocious maternal mortality rate -- 1,600:100,000 compared to 8:100,000 in the US.

I admire her courage. I am in awe of her. May God help her and everyone else there.

I don&#039;t know how this strategically fits. And I don&#039;t know whether an escalation will help or hurt. But I know for damned sure that we&#039;re not building the CIVILIAN infrastructure needed for the Afghanis to stand on their own.

She told me that this is the best support that they need, and warned her countrypersons that the foreign aid will eventually end. I feel like we&#039;re forgetting civil society and the needs of the people, and instead, we&#039;re simply focusing on a military objective.

I want to hear more from Afghanistan&#039;s people themselves. I want to hear about what we&#039;re doing regarding health and education. About schools. About hospitals with sterile medical equipment. About jobs. &lt;i&gt;That&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; what&#039;s being lost in the din about escalation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today, I interviewed an interesting Afghani M.P.H. student &#8212; a female MPH student <i>and</i> an MD &#8212; who learned medicine during the Soviet occupation, practiced medicine through the civil war and watched in horror during the Taliban as she was one of few female doctors, which were allowed to practice medicine with women only. She had need for specialists, who were all men, and by the time she got help via passing notes, essentially, in a bureaucratic fascist maze, from the senior male doctors, many of her patients died. Need a gyno? Forget about it, and many women died from postpartum hemorrhages.</p>
<p>She worked with NGOs where she was able to learn, in secret, how to use a computer (since women could not get an education).  She survived Taliban rule and then came to the US to learn about public health, so that she can make a dent in the atrocious maternal mortality rate &#8212; 1,600:100,000 compared to 8:100,000 in the US.</p>
<p>I admire her courage. I am in awe of her. May God help her and everyone else there.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how this strategically fits. And I don&#8217;t know whether an escalation will help or hurt. But I know for damned sure that we&#8217;re not building the CIVILIAN infrastructure needed for the Afghanis to stand on their own.</p>
<p>She told me that this is the best support that they need, and warned her countrypersons that the foreign aid will eventually end. I feel like we&#8217;re forgetting civil society and the needs of the people, and instead, we&#8217;re simply focusing on a military objective.</p>
<p>I want to hear more from Afghanistan&#8217;s people themselves. I want to hear about what we&#8217;re doing regarding health and education. About schools. About hospitals with sterile medical equipment. About jobs. <i>That&#8217;s</i> what&#8217;s being lost in the din about escalation.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt Howdy</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/12/03/the-enthusiasm-gap/#comment-57195</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57192&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;al2o3cr&lt;/a&gt;: 
Im trying to imagine how its possible that I had never seen that website before.  gamepolitics.com.  if there was ever a website made for me . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57192" rel="nofollow">al2o3cr</a>:<br />
Im trying to imagine how its possible that I had never seen that website before.  gamepolitics.com.  if there was ever a website made for me . . .</p>
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		<title>By: al2o3cr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ: A challenger appears for Orly&#039;s title of &quot;Most Ridiculous Litigant&quot;.

http://gamepolitics.com/2009/11/24/winona-ryder-depeche-mode-factor-wow-lawsuit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ: A challenger appears for Orly&#8217;s title of &#8220;Most Ridiculous Litigant&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://gamepolitics.com/2009/11/24/winona-ryder-depeche-mode-factor-wow-lawsuit" rel="nofollow">http://gamepolitics.com/2009/11/24/winona-ryder-depeche-mode-factor-wow-lawsuit</a></p>
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		<title>By: Capt Howdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capt Howdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTnZhXgbVbk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pickle Surprise&lt;/a&gt;

chucha tu madre what did these people do before youtube</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTnZhXgbVbk" rel="nofollow">Pickle Surprise</a></p>
<p>chucha tu madre what did these people do before youtube</p>
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		<title>By: Pedonator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pedonator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57187&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;al2o3cr&lt;/a&gt;: OK, he has brought attention to the question of food quality and security and the sustainability of industrial agriculture...Oh. No. That&#039;s Michelle.

Is it ok to look back in wistful Hope&#8482; and wish Michelle had been the candidate? Will you allow me a few moments of delusion that things would be significantly better if that had been the case?

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-57188&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;redmanlaw&lt;/a&gt;: One wonders, now that They have us all focused on Afghanistan, what kind of shenanigans They are committing in Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-57187" rel="nofollow">al2o3cr</a>: OK, he has brought attention to the question of food quality and security and the sustainability of industrial agriculture&#8230;Oh. No. That&#8217;s Michelle.</p>
<p>Is it ok to look back in wistful Hope&trade; and wish Michelle had been the candidate? Will you allow me a few moments of delusion that things would be significantly better if that had been the case?</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-57188" rel="nofollow">redmanlaw</a>: One wonders, now that They have us all focused on Afghanistan, what kind of shenanigans They are committing in Iraq.</p>
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