Comments on: Some Call It Treason

By: JNOV

JNOV — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:44:20 +0000

From the SPLC:

Oath Keepers, the military and police organization that was formed earlier this year and held its April muster on Lexington Green, may be a particularly worrisome example of the Patriot revival. Members vow to fulfill the oaths to the Constitution that they swore while in the military or law enforcement. “Our oath is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and we will not obey unconstitutional (and thus illegal) and immoral orders,” the group says. Oath Keepers lists 10 orders its members won’t obey, including two that reference U.S. concentration camps.

That same pugnacious attitude was on display after conservatives attacked an April report from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that suggested a resurgence of radical right-wing activity was under way. “We will not fear our government; they will fear us,” one man, who appeared to be on active duty in the Army, said in an angry video sent to the Oath Keepers blog. In another video at the site, a man who said he was a former Army paratrooper in Afghanistan and Iraq described President Obama as “an enemy of the state,” adding, “I would rather die than be a slave to my government.” The Oath Keepers site soon began hawking T-shirts with slogans like “I’m a Right Wing Extremist and Damn Proud of It!”

In April, Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes — a Yale Law School graduate and former aide to U.S. Rep. Ron Paul (a Texas Republican and hard-line libertarian) — worried about a coming dictatorship. “We know that if the day should come where a full-blown dictatorship would come, or tyranny … it can only happen if those men, our brothers in arms, go along and comply with unconstitutional, unlawful orders,” Rhodes told conspiracy-minded radio host Alex Jones. “Imagine if we focus on the police and military. Game over for the New World Order.”

By: Promnight

Promnight — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:30:41 +0000

I started looking into 3 percenters, and immediately got into scarytown, its 2 degrees of separation to McVeigh. And then you see, the whole teaparty movement, its the patriot movement, its McVeigh’s same cause, exactly, same ideology, but now more accepted, more widespread. Clinton inherited Waco, luckily, Obama has not had to have a showdown with any of these crazies yet. But when he does, as soon as their is a Waco or Ruby Ridge, and there will be, there will also be another Oklahoma City bombing, or worse, these people are smart, smarter than the 9-11 terrorists, they didn’t have to hijack an airplane with boxcutters, because they figured out what can be done with fertilizer and diesel fuel. And they already infiltrate everything in our society, and are invisible, and can get all the tank trucks and diesel and fertilizer they need.

The Adkisson brigades, I am sure, have the knowledge and ability to do all the things we fear the mooslims doing, and do it far more easily, with no suspicion, no swarthy guttaral guys moping around the refinery, nope, just good old ‘Murrican boys, nothing to be suspicious about.

By: Benedick

Benedick — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:18:21 +0000

@Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: Kisses, darling.

By: Benedick

Benedick — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:17:37 +0000

@JNOV: Isn't it the best? I mean, grave and sexy and slightly preposterous? What the hell was Pearl Bailey wearing anyhow? What so moved me was Hammerstein's intention. With Porgy and Bess, the Gershwins translated a hit play into a serious look at yesterday. They went to the Low Country and did their best to bring what they saw to the stage. They elevated, as it were, the 'folk' idiom into popular opera. What Hammerstein did was to clear the decks and put grand opera onto the lives of black Americans at a time when the Army, etc was segregated. In its way I think it's the more remarkable achievement. You do understand that I am only referring to white guys trying to understand black America? Let us put to one side the torrent of music produced by Ellington/Strayhorn - the great unsung American composer of the 20th cent - Basie, Armstrong, et al. This was the mainstream and a fine writer trying to expand the understanding of his audience. And wow, Belafonte was superb at the end. I used to try to sing that aria and it's not easy. I know it's dubbed but so well done. And those long, long takes! So difficult to stage. I kept wondering how many takes were done. Preminger never did anything better.

By: Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches

Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:26:19 +0000

@Benedick: Oh my God, you are a genius, you know that? ROFL.

By: JNOV

JNOV — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:21:44 +0000

@Benedick: Love Carmen Jones.

By: Benedick

Benedick — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:17:55 +0000

I thought three percent was the gay. Aren't we at least that? I know it seems like every other man you stumble into at Home Depot has got at least one pierced nipple but looks can be decieving. @Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches: Kisses. Wait. Does that come off.. you know... funny? Cos I mean it man to man. Wait. So we were watching Carmen Jones last night - I'd never seen it before - and it was really pretty damn good. My God Belafonte was beautiful!... Wait. Um... @Dave H: Fucking WORD, dude! Les Franch bankrupted les selves fighting a proxy war with we Brits (poor fools) on behalf of the colonies. While the yeomen soldiers were packing it in and going home to Woodstock to harvest the mangels the poor dumb Franch were facing the might of the greatest fighting force ever seen on the planet, aka, Brits. Wootah!

By: Capt Howdy

Capt Howdy — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21:36:29 +0000

after reading the orders they pledge not to obey I am temped to join.

By: Dave H

Dave H — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:59:06 +0000

@redmanlaw: I love this kind of illogic that completely ignores the French Army and Navy which intervened pretty decisively on the side of the "three percent" of the colonists. Anyone on the Oather web pages mentioning which foreign armed forces will be intervening on their behalf when their big revolution kicks off? The Taliban? Osama bin Laden is probably available. I can't wait for Fox News coverage of Oather's spending a winter camped at Valley Forge away from their TVs, pizza and beer. Will they be dedicated enough to miss the Super Bowl?

By: Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches

Tommmcatt is hunkered down in the trenches — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:53:11 +0000

@redmanlaw: Wow. That is both tiresome AND fake history at the same time.