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		<title>By: nojo</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/07/13/darkness-at-noonan/#comment-41243</link>
		<dc:creator>nojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And because I got curious: Peggy Noonan was 13 when Sarah Palin was born. That&#039;s not exactly a high perch to be shit-talking a later &quot;generation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And because I got curious: Peggy Noonan was 13 when Sarah Palin was born. That&#8217;s not exactly a high perch to be shit-talking a later &#8220;generation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Sommers says take this job &#38; shove it!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Sommers says take this job &#38; shove it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 16:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prommie&lt;/a&gt;:  In other words, as Barry called them, &quot;the bitters.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41177" rel="nofollow">Prommie</a>:  In other words, as Barry called them, &#8220;the bitters.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: blogenfreude</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/07/13/darkness-at-noonan/#comment-41179</link>
		<dc:creator>blogenfreude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A &lt;a href=&quot;http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/death-squads-cheney-and-american.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt; for FCS - I swear he and the Rude Pundit are related.  &quot;Freedom stew&quot; = FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2009/07/death-squads-cheney-and-american.html" rel="nofollow">link</a> for FCS &#8211; I swear he and the Rude Pundit are related.  &#8220;Freedom stew&#8221; = FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: ManchuCandidate</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/07/13/darkness-at-noonan/#comment-41178</link>
		<dc:creator>ManchuCandidate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41177&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Prommie&lt;/a&gt;: 
You have a valid point.  I grew up with folks like this and I know you have.  

It&#039;s a pure visceral reaction to the world around them because it makes them feel inadequate and small.  I don&#039;t know what it is.  A sense of entitlement?  Delusion?  I have an idea, but I&#039;m probably wrong.

Applying logic and rationality makes Nooner&#039;s arguments ineffective and weak against a strong emotional reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41177" rel="nofollow">Prommie</a>:<br />
You have a valid point.  I grew up with folks like this and I know you have.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pure visceral reaction to the world around them because it makes them feel inadequate and small.  I don&#8217;t know what it is.  A sense of entitlement?  Delusion?  I have an idea, but I&#8217;m probably wrong.</p>
<p>Applying logic and rationality makes Nooner&#8217;s arguments ineffective and weak against a strong emotional reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Prommie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prommie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 15:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noone has commented on why this Noonan piece is the most fascinating commentary on the GOP and Palin that I have ever read.

Noonan sets about lining up, and shooting down, the pro-Palin arguments of her GOP set.  She lists and concisely summarizes all the things that she hears people saying, that her kind of people are saying, in support of Palin.

And the amazing thing is that not one of these pro-Palin arguments has anything at all to do with Palin&#039;s real support among her real fans.

The pigfucking, mouthbreathing base of support for Palin like her because she is a hatemonger pro-life fundie, who encourages and supports their violent anti-intellectualism and plays on their anger and resentment.  She goes among the lowest of unshod rural rubes, and says &quot;look at me, I got me a knocked up daughter and a retard, too, just like you, and I shoot critters, so fuck them pointy head liberal faggots who look down on us.&quot;

I mean, really, her appeal is hate and resentment and violence, and she sold and sells best among the hateful, resentful, and violent.

Yet look at this list of Palin apologia that Noonan comes up with.  Fantasies.  These are the rationalizations of Noonan&#039;s upper-class, semi-educated GOP set, who simply cannot allow themselves to see her Palin for what she is, who cannot admit that their party is down to nothing but violent hillbillies, and the retard who would lead them in jihad against liberalism, and make no mistake, this hatred for &quot;liberals,&quot;  is really pure and simple hatred for culture and knowledge and education itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noone has commented on why this Noonan piece is the most fascinating commentary on the GOP and Palin that I have ever read.</p>
<p>Noonan sets about lining up, and shooting down, the pro-Palin arguments of her GOP set.  She lists and concisely summarizes all the things that she hears people saying, that her kind of people are saying, in support of Palin.</p>
<p>And the amazing thing is that not one of these pro-Palin arguments has anything at all to do with Palin&#8217;s real support among her real fans.</p>
<p>The pigfucking, mouthbreathing base of support for Palin like her because she is a hatemonger pro-life fundie, who encourages and supports their violent anti-intellectualism and plays on their anger and resentment.  She goes among the lowest of unshod rural rubes, and says &#8220;look at me, I got me a knocked up daughter and a retard, too, just like you, and I shoot critters, so fuck them pointy head liberal faggots who look down on us.&#8221;</p>
<p>I mean, really, her appeal is hate and resentment and violence, and she sold and sells best among the hateful, resentful, and violent.</p>
<p>Yet look at this list of Palin apologia that Noonan comes up with.  Fantasies.  These are the rationalizations of Noonan&#8217;s upper-class, semi-educated GOP set, who simply cannot allow themselves to see her Palin for what she is, who cannot admit that their party is down to nothing but violent hillbillies, and the retard who would lead them in jihad against liberalism, and make no mistake, this hatred for &#8220;liberals,&#8221;  is really pure and simple hatred for culture and knowledge and education itself.</p>
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		<title>By: RomeGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>RomeGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41170&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;redmanlaw&lt;/a&gt;: @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41172&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Benedick&lt;/a&gt;: Yeah, I would think the homo stuff would get to shock jocks. OMG NOT THE PEEN!!

Getting back to the post, though, excellent insight - a real zinger. That part did bother me; it just seemed like she was talking about someone else for a moment. if this had been anonymous, or posted by someone else, though, everyone would be praising it - it&#039;s just because Peggy wrote it they&#039;re out for blood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41170" rel="nofollow">redmanlaw</a>: @<a href="#comment-41172" rel="nofollow">Benedick</a>: Yeah, I would think the homo stuff would get to shock jocks. OMG NOT THE PEEN!!</p>
<p>Getting back to the post, though, excellent insight &#8211; a real zinger. That part did bother me; it just seemed like she was talking about someone else for a moment. if this had been anonymous, or posted by someone else, though, everyone would be praising it &#8211; it&#8217;s just because Peggy wrote it they&#8217;re out for blood.</p>
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		<title>By: ManchuCandidate</title>
		<link>http://www.stinque.com/2009/07/13/darkness-at-noonan/#comment-41173</link>
		<dc:creator>ManchuCandidate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41171&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Benedick&lt;/a&gt;: 
That&#039;s disappointing.  I am/was looking forward to Bruno.  And Borat was one of the few comedies that had me laughing till tears came out and out of breath although the &quot;Chip&quot; Pickering and the evilshun hating evangelical church stopped me cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41171" rel="nofollow">Benedick</a>:<br />
That&#8217;s disappointing.  I am/was looking forward to Bruno.  And Borat was one of the few comedies that had me laughing till tears came out and out of breath although the &#8220;Chip&#8221; Pickering and the evilshun hating evangelical church stopped me cold.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedick</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41170&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;redmanlaw&lt;/a&gt;: Oh, that&#039;s probably just the flapping dicks. Meh. You see enough of that at home. In a movie it&#039;s just shock-jock stuff. There is nothing to match the delirious naked wrestling from &lt;i&gt;Borat&lt;/i&gt; as it invaded the mortgage brokers&#039; convention. But then, what could?

I suspect that this week&#039;s boast will be: I Walked Out Of &lt;i&gt;Bruno&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41170" rel="nofollow">redmanlaw</a>: Oh, that&#8217;s probably just the flapping dicks. Meh. You see enough of that at home. In a movie it&#8217;s just shock-jock stuff. There is nothing to match the delirious naked wrestling from <i>Borat</i> as it invaded the mortgage brokers&#8217; convention. But then, what could?</p>
<p>I suspect that this week&#8217;s boast will be: I Walked Out Of <i>Bruno</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Benedick</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41167&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dodgerblue&lt;/a&gt;: Word.

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SanFranLefty&lt;/a&gt;: I loved &lt;i&gt;Borat&lt;/i&gt;. It made me cry with laughter when I wasn&#039;t hiding under my seat. But the new one has no story. And there is no verisimilitude to the fashion. Which, if you&#039;re going to lampoon the fashion industry, is kind of a problem. I always thought that Bruno was the least appealing of his three characters and the movie did nothing to change my mind. And all the fag-bashing looks curiously old-fashioned. The world has moved on. The movie is stuck back in the 90s. Odd. I doubt it&#039;ll do well. It&#039;s not funny enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41167" rel="nofollow">Dodgerblue</a>: Word.</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-41168" rel="nofollow">SanFranLefty</a>: I loved <i>Borat</i>. It made me cry with laughter when I wasn&#8217;t hiding under my seat. But the new one has no story. And there is no verisimilitude to the fashion. Which, if you&#8217;re going to lampoon the fashion industry, is kind of a problem. I always thought that Bruno was the least appealing of his three characters and the movie did nothing to change my mind. And all the fag-bashing looks curiously old-fashioned. The world has moved on. The movie is stuck back in the 90s. Odd. I doubt it&#8217;ll do well. It&#8217;s not funny enough.</p>
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		<title>By: redmanlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>redmanlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-41165&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Benedick&lt;/a&gt;: One of the ESPN AM radio guys (Mike and Mike) walked out of Bruno.  And when you can offend a sports reporter, you&#039;re in low raunch territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-41165" rel="nofollow">Benedick</a>: One of the ESPN AM radio guys (Mike and Mike) walked out of Bruno.  And when you can offend a sports reporter, you&#8217;re in low raunch territory.</p>
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